General Gun Discussion

[rstel01]

WASHINGTON - John McCain welcomed a Supreme Court decision invalidating a District of Columbia handgun ban. Barack Obama sought to straddle the subject by saying he favors an individual's right to bear firearms as well as a government's right to regulate them.

F.U. Jerk Off,

This post brought to you By a Bitter Gun Owner Clinging to my Religion

[AWMac]

 INcognito 

[DYNAMITE]

[crockett]

Crockpot just got so owned he probably doesn't even comprehend it..

I didn't get owned on anything Snot nose..

I never said anything about women's right to an abortion being in the constitution. Guess what there also isn't anything about letting you have the right to become a post op tranny. You are free to do it as long as you can pay for it, there is no law that says that you can't become a shela-man.

Yet if the govt made a law stating you couldn't that would be a violation of your rights regardless if it's in the constitution or not. Same thing if you needed a heart transplant but the govt made a law saying you couldn't have one. This is essentially what the right wings tries to do on the abortion issue. So yes it is a "right" that has been taken away in many places by the so called less govt conservatives.

The constitution isn't a list of all rights, it is more of a restriction on the govt, keeping the govt from taking away very "specific" rights from you. It doesn't mean there are no other rights that arent listed.

[GtoRA2]

Your a guy right?  This thread has me doubting it. 

[bustr]

Well GotoRA with Crocketts reasoning on rights that exist unenumerated by the constitution, I'll be watching the SCOTUS blog site with breathless anticipation for the first abortion of an elderly because the woman decided caring for the parent an inconveinience. How many mothers in the 90's killed their children years after they were out of the womb and got off?

When did the preamble get changed from Life, Liberty and Happiness to Happiness by Conveinience?

I might even offer a case of scotch to the scholor who can show me where the "right" of a woman to kill for personal conveinence is hiding in the foot notes of the constitution. We are all young now, but some day we will need a care giver to feed us our arsnic laden pablum.

[wrongwayric]

I'm grabbing my guns and going to lake shore drive in chicago and shootin up a storm. Of course mayor Daily's thugs.....errr the chicago police will tackle me or shoot me down.

Why they feel that anyone owning a gun is a criminal, when most of us own them legally, is beyond me?

[crockett]

Well GotoRA with Crocketts reasoning on rights that exist unenumerated by the constitution, I'll be watching the SCOTUS blog site with breathless anticipation for the first abortion of an elderly because the woman decided caring for the parent an inconveinience. How many mothers in the 90's killed their children years after they were out of the womb and got off?

When did the preamble get changed from Life, Liberty and Happiness to Happiness by Conveinience?

I might even offer a case of scotch to the scholor who can show me where the "right" of a woman to kill for personal conveinence is hiding in the foot notes of the constitution. We are all young now, but some day we will need a care giver to feed us our arsnic laden pablum.

I always love how conservatives are always all for rights for the unborn soon as conception, but soon as they pop out.. screw them can't do anything for them because it's socialism. At least if you guys had some sort of consistancy I could maybe understand where you are coming from.

[Elfie]

I didn't get owned on anything Snot nose..

Everything you said after that just proves this:

Crockpot just got so owned he probably doesn't even comprehend it..

 

[Elfie]

Why they feel that anyone owning a gun is a criminal, when most of us own them legally, is beyond me?

Ultimately, they have more control over you if you have no means to fight back.

[bustr]

Crockett,

If socialism was such a great thing, then why have "We the People" as a majority not given the green light to congress and the states to abolish the current 250 year old constitution and adopt the new EU constitution, all 400 pages of in depth social justice, social programs and centralised social control?

Our constitution protects very specific rights in very direct language from government encroachment. The EU constitution is 400 pages of government encroachment and control of its subjects lives. If you want socialism, change the constitution.

Use the amendment process if you think new rights should be recognised. All it takes is the same effort getting ellected president does. But that also means you have to convince a majority of "We the People" that your "OTHER" rights are as valuble to "We the People" now and for the next 250 years as those in our current constitution.

So how many peoples signatures have you gotten on your pettition to lawfully amend the constitution?

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

INteresting.

[BTW]

Its NOT complicated. This is exactly what the framers of the Constitution meant...

"No Free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." (Thomas Jefferson, Proposal Virginia Constitution, 1 T. Jefferson Papers, 334,[C.J.Boyd, Ed., 1950])

"Americans have the right and advantage of being armed - unlike the citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust the people with arms." (James Madison, The Federalist Papers #46 at 243-244)

Its not like the wording of the Constitution is all historians have to go on. They have countless sources of what the framers meant in the 2nd amendment, from OTHER writings, more concise statements, of the framers on the subject of arms. THE MEDIA JUST DOESN'T REPORT IT in interest of obfuscation and propaganda.

From Jefferson's statement above, is there any doubt what he meant? NO

[WWhiskey]

There's a poll up on Yahoo!'s front page about the ruling. Here's the results' so far:

link please??

[Kermit de frog]

Is he mad at Barack or McCain?