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Offline Pannono

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Re: The most needed aircraft from each country (post opinions)
« Reply #30 on: June 06, 2008, 04:50:39 PM »
Fighter/Attacker
U.S.S.R: I-16
Japanese: Ki 43
Germany: 109G-10
U.S.A: P-63
Britain: Typhoon IA
Italy: G.55 Serie I
Other: D.520, IAR.81C

Bomber/Attacker
U.S.S.R: Tu-2
Japanese: G4M3
Germany: Ju 188
U.S.A: A-26/P-61
Britain: Mosquito B.Mk XVI
Italy: Cant Z. 1007
Other: LeO 451
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Re: The most needed aircraft from each country (post opinions)
« Reply #31 on: June 06, 2008, 06:43:54 PM »
Pannono,

The Typhoon Mk Ia never saw service, AFAIK.  It was ordered as a backup in case the Hispano cannons didn't work out.  The Typhoon Mk Ia was to be armed with twelve .303 machine guns.
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Re: The most needed aircraft from each country (post opinions)
« Reply #32 on: June 07, 2008, 11:11:02 AM »
Hey stupid question.....did the Sea Fury's see service in WWII or were they more Korean conflict? Didn't know if the Brit CV group serving in the Pacific  had them.

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Re: The most needed aircraft from each country (post opinions)
« Reply #33 on: June 07, 2008, 11:29:43 AM »
I think there's a limited number of aircraft left to do that would get used a lot in the late war MA. For the US, the A-26 Invader and the B-29, fighters are pretty well covered. For the LW the Me 410, He 177 and even the Hs 129. For the RAF, the Meteor, Beaufighter and the glass nose Mosquitoes. For the Soviets the Pe-2, Tu-2, Il-10 and Yak-3. For the Italians there is the G.55. I think we already have the only Japanese aircraft that would see a lot of use.

For scenarios there are too many to mention, but mainly we need some early war bombers like the He 111, Wellington, SM-79 and Betty.

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Re: The most needed aircraft from each country (post opinions)
« Reply #34 on: June 07, 2008, 12:33:28 PM »
Hey stupid question.....did the Sea Fury's see service in WWII or were they more Korean conflict? Didn't know if the Brit CV group serving in the Pacific  had them.

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Fury and Sea Fury were both post war, as was the Tempest MK.II (radial engine).


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Re: The most needed aircraft from each country (post opinions)
« Reply #35 on: June 08, 2008, 11:14:13 AM »
Hey stupid question.....did the Sea Fury's see service in WWII or were they more Korean conflict? Didn't know if the Brit CV group serving in the Pacific  had them.

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Re: The most needed aircraft from each country (post opinions)
« Reply #36 on: June 08, 2008, 11:28:32 AM »
and another thing.  Why do so many people want the HE 111.  Besides being a good EW or Scenario fit, I do not see what the attraction would be in having it.  Not a criticism, just a question. 

FWIW here is my list:
Fighter/Attacker
U.S.S.R : Yak 3
Japanese: KI-43 OSCAR
Germany: ME-410
U.S.A : P-40N Kittyhawk
Britian : Beaufighter
Italy -G.55 Centauro

Bomber/Attacker
U.S.S.R : Pe-2
Japanese: D4Y JUDY
Germany: DO 217
U.S.A : SB2C Helldiver- Badly
Britain: Wellington Mk. III
Italy: SM 79


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Re: The most needed aircraft from each country (post opinions)
« Reply #37 on: June 08, 2008, 03:07:01 PM »
The basic problem with any early war scenario with the current AH planeset is the lack of a bomber slow enough for the early war fighters to easily catch and kill. Currently we have to make do with the Ju 88A-4 and the Boston, the fastest Allied and Axis bombers of the period. The Ju 88A-4 was introduced in mid 41 and was faster, better armed and armoured than the 88A-1 and A-5s that flew in the BoB. Yet even these early 88s were much faster than the He111 and Dorniers which made up the bulk of the Luftwaffe. Similarly Bostons and the like formed only a small part of the RAF and the Armee de L'Air, the bulk of which were slower planes like the Wellington.

A slow bomber like the He 111 would make most early war scenarios much more realistic, as it would make a better substitute for many other slow vulnerable early war bombers from Britain, Japan, Italy and the Soviet Union.
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Re: The most needed aircraft from each country (post opinions)
« Reply #38 on: June 08, 2008, 04:11:33 PM »
I'm listing totally new airframes, not variants (...or almost in the case of LaGG-3).

Fighter/Attacker:

USSR: LaGG-3
Japan: Ki-43
Germany: Me-410
USA: Brewster Buffalo (Hope to see Model 239 as a variant. :))
Britain: Beaufighter
Italy: C.200

Bomber/Attacker:

USSR : Pe-2
Japan: D4Y
Germany: Ju-188
USA : Devastator
Britain: Wellington
Italy: SM 79
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Re: The most needed aircraft from each country (post opinions)
« Reply #39 on: June 08, 2008, 04:16:05 PM »
and another thing.  Why do so many people want the HE 111.  Besides being a good EW or Scenario fit, I do not see what the attraction would be in having it.  Not a criticism, just a question. 



The He-111 was one of the most important German bombers of the war. Most people who want it are not concerned about 'wot am teh bestest plain lol'.

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Re: The most needed aircraft from each country (post opinions)
« Reply #40 on: June 08, 2008, 04:21:10 PM »
You may also be surprised by how an aircraft performs in the game, too. During the votes two patches ago, almost everyone (especially the A-26 camp) was complaining that the B-25 wasn't going to be of any use in the Arenas and was voted in almost entirely on the strength of name recognition.

However it's generally safe to say now that the 25H especially has found itself a steady niche as a heavy strafer/attacker and adequate tank-buster.
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Re: The most needed aircraft from each country (post opinions)
« Reply #41 on: June 08, 2008, 09:19:37 PM »
The He-111 was one of the most important German bombers of the war. Most people who want it are not concerned about 'wot am teh bestest plain lol'.

This and the other answers to my question are appreciated.  I enjoy the historical aspect and realize this statement is true.  However I think that I let what I see in the MA (the attitude above) predjudice my opinion of why some one would want a certain platform.  I am on board with the HE 111 when it comes time for a vote.  Hopefully we can fly one in a Battle of Britain FSO soon. :)
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Re: The most needed aircraft from each country (post opinions)
« Reply #43 on: June 09, 2008, 03:46:32 PM »
Sorry to disrupt the order of things, but I'm happy with (almost) any list that includes the:

A-26
Mosquito Mk XVI
PBY Catalina
Bristol Beaufighter (Mk VI?)
And that's all I can think of at the moment...

I don't really think we need any more jets...

We do.  It's called the Gloster Meteor.
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Re: The most needed aircraft from each country (post opinions)
« Reply #44 on: June 09, 2008, 03:48:26 PM »
It's almost the same exact size as the Lancaster. Lancaster in blue, Halifax in pink.
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