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Offline SteveBailey

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« Reply #60 on: June 09, 2008, 01:11:07 PM »
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,France ,starting in 1789 followed a sucession of changes from total monarchy to constitutional monarchy then republic and finally dictatorship
I wonder if the french people can be considered as free before 1958 (but it's my very own opinion)
And as today there is so much archaisms in my country I wonder if it's not something I'm pinning my hopes on
Well, I find the history of France to be very interesting but no doubt you are far more knowledgeable than I about it.  

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I think Somalia would be a good example of a country without gun control laws. 

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there was gun control in both cases,I know it for sure :)

<edit> no need to thank me, you can thank my country but not me , I was not involved in any help.


heheh I think you were taking me too literally... I was referring to France herself, you as a represetative thereof in this discussion.

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I think you were the witness of a major brain dysfunction on my end ,I'll better go to sleep right now (21:58 here)

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Now hug and make up...

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I think Somalia would be a good example of a country without gun control laws. 

Somalia is good example of lawlessness, period.
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« Reply #66 on: June 09, 2008, 04:04:55 PM »
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Only when a police officer pointed a gun at him did he drop the knife and was eventually subdued.

Things that make you go, "Hmmmmmm....".
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Perhaps a better scenario would have been:

Police Officer; BANG BANG BANG BANG "drop the knife"

knife guy, BLEED, BLEED, BLEED, BLEED A LOT (background visible through several new openings in torso) Fall to ground.

Police Officer; Good knife guy.

Knife guy; start decomposition.
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wrong, my friend.  They just do not get much publicity. Want some links?

Sorry I took so long to get back to this.  I was actually thinking of the high-profile, high-bodycount shootings' that make media field-days, Steve. I was going to also point out the woman who recently pulled her off-duty piece and stopped the guy in church.

I was pointing out things' like the UT shooting because, well...It seems' like for every crazed gunman with a bodycount, we suddenly see new gun control regulation. I mean, you'd think that would apply across the board for all kinds' of things. Whenever they have 20-30 car pileups' during the early winter because people are still too used to driving too fast, and hit the early Fall fog here in the San Jualquin valley, they would suddenly introduce a new law...they don't do toejam.

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A law never impresses one who is not inclined to follow it. A law never stopped anyone from doing something they really wanted to. A law is not a solution when it is not complied with and except for incarceration nothing forces compliance with a law if the individual chooses not to comply.
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A law never impresses one who is not inclined to follow it. A law never stopped anyone from doing something they really wanted to. A law is not a solution when it is not complied with and except for incarceration nothing forces compliance with a law if the individual chooses not to comply.

Only too true, Maverick. They are only words on a piece of paper to a crooked man.

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I want to speak of curry chicken , please provide us a real example of a country freed by its own because of the absence of gun control

Switzerland.

WWII - Hitler never invaded because he knew they could never take it (virtually every citizen was well armed).

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wrong example you can proove something with an experience that never happened.

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One reason Hitler and his party were able to stay in power and murder millions was because of his gun control laws.  Do you need a history lesson or are you happy being ignorant?

Edit:  Here, just in case you actually want to know something about what you are discussing, here's a sample of the Nazi weapon law of 1938:
Joseph Goebbels on Kristallnacht, after the jews were disarmed:
Still want to talk about curry chicken?



The worse part is I think you're actually serious...and I'm the ignorant one?

But even asuming your History channel'esque idea had "some" merit the Weimar republic had already enacted gun control laws in the late 1920's as an attempt to rein in the political private armies of the comunists, and various nationalist/veterans groups. That the Nazis themselves further extended the controls against the Jews in 1938, only reinforces the idea the National socialist govt always legalised its oppression of the Jews. The law of 1938 is only as relevant as the fact that not only was private ownership of firearms in germany before the rise of the Nazis not only very low, but the idea that somehow by 1938 Hitlers govt. could've been overthrown by anything less than a general revolt of the army is ludicrous.
And by virtue that Hitler came to power by the ballot and was exceptionally popular by the late 30's, also makes the idea of a real populist (let alone Jewish) driven resistance by 1938 nothing but drivel even assuming such a thing existed.

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switzerland and the US..   both were never attacked because of their lack of gun control laws.. the japs did not attack our mainland because everyone was armed.   

Maverick.. not only do criminals ignore laws but the more stupid laws that are made..  the more the normally law abiding and moral people ignore all laws..

Bad laws lead to people ignoring all laws.   

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