Typhoon Rockets

[TonyJoey]

I have noticed that the typoon's rockets are not as powerful as they should be. Typhoons were used as mainly fighter-bombers. They claimed many German tanks and other armor, but i find it very hard to kill a tank even with a direct hit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iffnw_rbB1Q

At about 3:20 or so u see the impact of two rockets. Now that impact looks somewhat like a 500lb bomb explosion, while in the game they looke like two little 50kg bombs like on the LA's.

I think it would be very cool if the rockets did damage like they did in real life. The Typhie would be an even cooler tank-buster if ya buffed up firepower a little.

 

[TonyJoey]

At about 3:35 too you can clearly see the power of the impact of the rockets.

[Guppy35]

Be careful what you wish for.  The RCAF Tiffies in Normandy carried only bombs.  The RAF Tiffies carried Rockets.  Most info seems to show that the rockets were far less effective then the bombs.

Also keep in mind that is 1944 propoganda film at work too

[Lusche]

Don't base weapon effectiveness upon "how it looks". It may look spectacular, but the warhead is still in the 60lbs range, not 500lbs.
Also British analysis during and after the war showed that the effectiveness of such Jabo attacks against enemy tanks had been greatly overrated. Most damage was actually done by disruption  of communications, destruction of light support vehicles, supplies, troops etc.

Such a small warhead didn't do much actual damage without an direct hit against a tank, which was difficult to achieve. And even then, destruction was far from being guaranteed.

[BaldEagl]

I know I can kill Panzers and Shermans with the rockets on an F6F but I have to salvo 3 to do it and get direct hits for a clean kill.  If I don't get direct hits then I'll usually pick up the kill later when a tanker finishes them off.  I'm not sure how the F6F rockets stack up against the Tiffies.

[TonyJoey]

Be careful what you wish for.  The RCAF Tiffies in Normandy carried only bombs.  The RAF Tiffies carried Rockets.  Most info seems to show that the rockets were far less effective then the bombs.

Also keep in mind that is 1944 propoganda film at work too

Also British analysis during and after the war showed that the effectiveness of such Jabo attacks against enemy tanks had been greatly overrated. Most damage was actually done by disruption  of communications, destruction of light support vehicles, supplies, troops etc.

Such a small warhead didn't do much actual damage without an direct hit against a tank, which was difficult to achieve. And even then, destruction was far from being guaranteed.

Either way that's a pretty cool video ya gotta say.

[Furball]

We have the HE warhead on our rockets, there was also a 25lb AP version

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RP-3

[TonyJoey]

We have the HE warhead on our rockets, there was also a 25lb AP version

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RP-3

That would be cool to have a choice of either AP rockets or HE rockets on the typh.

[Kev367th]

We have the HE warhead on our rockets, there was also a 25lb AP version

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RP-3

The warhead on our Tiffs rockets are 60lb HE ones?

Don't seem to be anyway.

Both the Tiffy and Mossie carried 60lb'ers, neither appear to have anything like that in the game.

Apart from that there were two types of HE 60lbs -
Semi armour piercing.
Hollow charge.
Both of which are more effective against armour than plain HE projectiles.

I would guess our RP-3 is the 18lb HE only model.
In which case it's not the commonly used RP-3 for either the Tiffy or Mossie.


They weren't exactly small -

[Noir]

That would be cool to have a choice of either AP rockets or HE rockets on the typh.

Fly an IL2 meanwhile 

[thrila]

I've had rockets bounce off gv's.  I wonder if that happened in real life.

[Adonai]

At about 3:35 too you can clearly see the power of the impact of the rockets.

So you know the rockets chance to hit were 4% I believe (cant check my sources on this but i know was under 10%) In which
very few actually "killed" tanks, I know russian Il-2's had same problem where rockets were less then 10% hitting chance and only credible damage coming from tanks were tracking them, which was the idea at time to stop an enemy armored advance.

However most rockets were fired at softer targets, artillery, trucks for that nature bombs were used on tanks as well as the guns.

[TonyJoey]

So you know the rockets chance to hit were 4% I believe (cant check my sources on this but i know was under 10%) In which
very few actually "killed" tanks, I know russian Il-2's had same problem where rockets were less then 10% hitting chance and only credible damage coming from tanks were tracking them, which was the idea at time to stop an enemy armored advance.

However most rockets were fired at softer targets, artillery, trucks for that nature bombs were used on tanks as well as the guns.

I would like to read your source. I believe ya, but I'd just like to see some of the other info on the site.Thx

[Pannono]

I've had rockets bounce off gv's.  I wonder if that happened in real life.

ive had bombs bounce off gvs, dont feel bad
my Il2 drops 250kg on panzer
i hear it whistle, see the hit sprite, i see bomb going up, whistling, then i see it blow up 300 feet away
 

[Rich46yo]

cool websight http://www.tarrif.net/wwii/guides/a2g_rockets_2.htm

I've had rockets bounce off gv's.  I wonder if that happened in real life.

It happened far more then it happens in the game.