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Offline stephen waldron

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Re: First Kill.
« Reply #30 on: June 10, 2008, 10:14:44 AM »
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Re: First Kill.
« Reply #31 on: June 10, 2008, 10:16:21 AM »
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Wrong again.  My stats from last tour:

Model; Kills of; Killed by
Model(s) killed in #times

B-17G 14-4
Spitfire Mk XVI 4

B-24J 31-4
Bf 109K-4 2
Wirbelwind 2

B-35C 3-0

B-25H 3-0

B-26B 10-3
Bf 109K-4 1
Spitfire Mk XIV 1
Spitfire Mk XVI 1

Ju 88 3-1
Ostwind 1

Lancaster III 30-2
Spitfire Mk XVI 0 2

Total Bomber kills: 94
Total deaths by bombers:  14
Deaths by bombers in Spitfires:  8

I spent the majority of the camp in a Spit XVI.

[EDIT]  To add to this, last camp I had 196 kills in fighters, 139 in Spitfires and 47 in BF109K-4's (the two planes I flew against almost all bombers last camp).  I did also have 3 buff kills in a 110G-2 so I'll back those out.  Following the statistics then, 75% of kills were in a Spit XVI so 70 of those should have been heavy bombers.

70 kills and 8 deaths.  Pretty much better grab my service revolver there huh big guy?
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Re: First Kill.
« Reply #32 on: June 10, 2008, 10:23:57 AM »
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Re: First Kill.
« Reply #33 on: June 10, 2008, 10:32:11 AM »
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Re: First Kill.
« Reply #34 on: June 10, 2008, 10:40:09 AM »
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Nobody was talking about "those 99 sorties". I just rebutted your made up claims about your success vs spitfires. That's all I was lookign for, so I didn't miss anything.

BTW, you lost 323 bombers out of 587 in tour 99, 340 out of 618 in tour 100 and 23 out of 94 in current tour. Not even counting the ditches or discos.

And this is not "god-like" knowledge.. every mortal can use the stats page..

Lusche out.

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Re: First Kill.
« Reply #35 on: June 10, 2008, 10:50:13 AM »
As a further note to this, I researched Spit XVI kills vs deaths of heavy bombers so far this camp.  Here are the results:

B-17G 210-120
B-24J 263-157
B-25C 50-5
B-25H 62-16
B-26B 102-27
Boston III 23-4
Ju 88 54-7
Ki-67 23-11
Lancaster III 317-83

Total: 1104-430

2.57% K/D  Spit XVI vs medium/heavy bombers

I took out C-47's so as not to inflate the numbers.

Now this brings into question your statement about having nothing to do with pilot skill, but simply being a matter of the aircraft.  If you recall from the prior post, my Spit XVI K/D rate against heavy buffs last camp was 8.75 K/D.

I suggest you actually know of what you speak before giving advice.

And as to Lusche's charachter and intent, there is no better wealth of knowledge willing to share with n00bs than Lusche.  I would suggest you use him as a resource, not as a punching bag.  Not to be mean but you look more and more stupid with every post.
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Re: First Kill.
« Reply #36 on: June 10, 2008, 10:51:38 AM »

Time for another Reality Check!

Today's subject: Waldren.

Performance in bombers vs Spitfire XVI

Tour 101: nada
Tour 100:  killed 1 Spit XVI while losing 12 bombers to Spit XVI's
Tour 99:  killed 0 Spit XVI while losing 22 bombers to Spit XVI's

Thank you for paying attention and see you next time on Reality Check!    :cool:

It's a little vague.... So your saying he may not be telling the total truth?

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Re: First Kill.
« Reply #37 on: June 10, 2008, 10:55:45 AM »


ALL HAIL SNAILMAN



get him Lusche

now to the original post I am not an expert by any stretch but, getting kills is more about your ability than it is which plane you are in. I prefer the Spit9 and fly it in almost every fighter sortie that I fly in. The thing is you need to have good gunnery and know your aircraft and it's abilities to become consistant at getting kills. These things will get easier the more you do them no matter what plane you fly. As most of the others herre the best advise is to spend time flying in the TA to get used to which ever plane you decide to take up and get with a trainer. This by far is the best advise out there. I di not and it took me months to get the first "earned" kill.

What I mean by first earned kill is that it was not a proxy and it was a kill that I actually had to work for through ACM.

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Re: First Kill.
« Reply #38 on: June 10, 2008, 10:57:59 AM »
 Not to be mean but you look more and more stupid with every post.


Not sure that worked.
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Re: First Kill.
« Reply #39 on: June 10, 2008, 11:22:30 AM »
Welcome back to the addiction Odbal!

I would recommend SpitVIII or N1K2-J for those first kills. More forgiving that the Spixteen while still having adequate climb, speed and turn. Both have good guns while the Niki's guns are over the top even if not as accurate as the Hizookas on the Spit. Branch out from there and Good Luck!

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Re: First Kill.
« Reply #40 on: June 10, 2008, 11:39:07 AM »
Appreciate all the help guys <<S>>
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Re: First Kill.
« Reply #41 on: June 10, 2008, 11:51:52 AM »
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Re: First Kill.
« Reply #42 on: June 10, 2008, 12:07:58 PM »
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Re: First Kill.
« Reply #43 on: June 10, 2008, 12:15:07 PM »
Stephen go get your head checked.

ODBAL, the Spit16 is the simplest overall TnB plane.. The VIII is more stable, but the 16 will obey all your commands almost instantly.  The stall departure is a little sharper than the rest of the spits, but you'll still have tremendous controls thanks in no small part to its very light weight, except in the very worst stalls and spins which you find only when you really man-handle the plane.  They both have top-tier climbing ability, and the only thing you'll be really disadvantaged in, is level speed.  That's not a huge handicap either, since they both hold speed very well.
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Re: First Kill.
« Reply #44 on: June 10, 2008, 12:46:48 PM »

As a side note....the Spit XVI will follow a Corsair in a dive for a bit at @ 400 mph...

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