Here is a blast form the past

[Yarbles]

"I still cant think of any good reason why the spit 14 is perked in this game"

Well I cant. Its a plane that was heavily produced in the late war and does not have the uber characteristics of the Tempest or 262. In a turn fight down low there are allot of better planes and at Alt its not necessarily better than the P51 or P47.

So whats it all about eh?

[Anaxogoras]

I'll second that.  Unperk the Spit14.

[stroker71]

If you fly a spit 14 you need to keep a hard deck of 10k or so.  Below that you'll just get yourself in trouble.  It's a great plane but don't think it deserves a perk equal to that of a C-Hog.  If it does have a perk then it should be half that of the c-hog...making it around 5-7 perks when the perk bonus is 1.00.

PS read my sig....been wanting this for sometime now!

[wrongwayric]

The higher you go in a Spit 14 the better it gets. However i agree with you it shouldn't be perked with the way the game is played now.

It used to be with the low number of players that you'd take off and climb anywhere from 2 to 3 sectors to find a fight, thus getting tons of altitude. The Spit 14 is one of just a few that really rocks way up high and when they introduced it to the game everyone started to fly it. Kind of like the Spit 16 now.

With the larger numbers of players now and the trend to low level fighting, 16k or lower, the Spit 14 wouldn't be my first choice now days. I'd take a Spit 8 or 16 now before i'd even think about taking a 14.

[Yarbles]

The higher you go in a Spit 14 the better it gets. However i agree with you it shouldn't be perked with the way the game is played now.

It used to be with the low number of players that you'd take off and climb anywhere from 2 to 3 sectors to find a fight, thus getting tons of altitude. The Spit 14 is one of just a few that really rocks way up high and when they introduced it to the game everyone started to fly it. Kind of like the Spit 16 now.

With the larger numbers of players now and the trend to low level fighting, 16k or lower, the Spit 14 wouldn't be my first choice now days. I'd take a Spit 8 or 16 now before i'd even think about taking a 14.

Exactly and therefore it is not going to unbalance the game in any way if it is unperked.

[Yarbles]

I think I know why the Spit 14 is perked.

If it wasnt it would put the pony out of business on everything except range. Its faster on Wep. climbs and turns better and hits harder. I know which I would choose  

[Motherland]

Same goes for the 109K...


I think the Spit14 should be unperked as well... most noobs would try to fly it and be surprised they can't yank and bank like other spits... it's not as easy to fly as the others and has nasty torque... it's vertical performance is great though, especially at high altitude.

Looking through the charts, it's about equal to the 109K except it's turn radius is about 70 yards (or is that feet?) smaller.

[Lusche]

I think I know why the Spit 14 is perked.

If it wasnt it would put the pony out of business on everything except range. Its faster on Wep. climbs and turns better and hits harder. I know which I would choose  

The pony wouldn't be out of buissness because

- the Spit's range is so short that it massively limits it's usefulness
- the Pony hauls a lot of ordonance for ground work
- the Spit has superior performance, but the Pony is somewhat easier to fly and a more stable gun platform

Overall the Spit XIV is more comparable to the 109K4 than to the Pony

[Noir]

don't get me started on the spit14 fuel 

I asked for a large DT option on the spit14 before, to justify its perk price. That way we will be able to use the 14 at its best alt.

[Guppy35]

don't get me started on the spit14 fuel 

I asked for a large DT option on the spit14 before, to justify its perk price. That way we will be able to use the 14 at its best alt.

It has the 30 gallon DT does it not?

[Yossarian]

These arguments have me convinced.  I fully support the unperking of the Spit XIV!!! 

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Yossarian

[stroker71]

Overall the Spit XIV is more comparable to the 109K4 than to the Pony

So the spit 14 should have an ENY of around 20 then?

[Lusche]

So the spit 14 should have an ENY of around 20 then?

Not in my opinion

[Banshee7]

if you unperk the 14 (which is a dumb idea) you need to perk the 16 and lower ENY on the K4.

Oh and i have no problem with the fuel in it. Ever heard of coasting

[Lusche]

if you unperk the 14 (which is a dumb idea) you need to perk the 16 and lower ENY on the K4

a) unperking the 14 isn't dumb. This plane won't be unbalancing the MA in any way. Take a look at it's K/D. In last year's fighter ranking it was #23. It's abysmal for a perk plane, especially when you consider that facts that the perk status prevents most new (=bad) players from flying it at all.

b) There is no reason right now to perk the 16, so why should there be one when the 14 is unperked?

c) lowering the ENY of the K4 is not unreasonable, but not such a big issue to me