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Offline SmokinLoon

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Re: Spitfire mk V w/ "C" wing, Spitfire mk 21
« Reply #30 on: June 20, 2008, 09:56:29 AM »
The Spit16 is the best fighter in the game.  It does it all and it does it all well.  Speed, turn, roll, sprint, firepower.  It has it all.  The biggest weakness is a light ammo loadout.  That is it.  Sure, there are a few planes that can do certain things better, but when the total package is looked at, the Spit16 is a top notch aircraft. 

Yeah, a lot of "noobs" fly the plane, but we all see good vets land many kills in that plane.  Vets just like some of the megaphone bellowers here in this thread.  It gets used by new guys and vets alike.  Take a cross section of who is flying it and I'd bet there are fewer "newbs" flying it in relation to vets comparatively speaking.

Also, making the case of "mostly noobs fly the Spit16 so if you get shot down by one then you suck" is the most immature and assinine overgeneralization I've seen in 3 months in these forums.  Especially when debating the qualities of an aircraft/gv, etc. 

There is a reason the Spit16 is at the top of the list.  "Newbs" dont put it there.
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Re: Spitfire mk V w/ "C" wing, Spitfire mk 21
« Reply #31 on: June 20, 2008, 11:37:25 AM »
The Spitfire XVI only has a bad rep because it's overused by noobs. However, there was once a time when all pilots chose their plane because it was fun and they were getting kills. That's essentially what the Spix pilots are doing. The Spix is one of the last on my list simply because of lack of fuel and sheer ungliness, but that doesn't make it crap.

At any rate, the Spitfire Vc's flying off of carrier decks in 1942-43 were equipped with 4x20mm cannon as transports. They did not have all 4 (if any) guns loaded with ammo which is why F4F's flew top cover. Also, the main handling instability was more likely caused by the 29 Imperial Gallon flexi-tank stuck in the rear of the Spit to give it more range for the carrier to Malta trip.

Also, it is a fact that any Spitfire with a C type or E type wing can carry 4x20mm cannon. Those wings were designed to. This game relies on what was actually done in the war though; i.e. the norm so you won't see any Spitfire XVI's, XIV's or V's with 4x hizookas.
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Re: Spitfire mk V w/ "C" wing, Spitfire mk 21
« Reply #32 on: June 20, 2008, 03:49:49 PM »
hold the war  our spits are too uber !

please reduce all boost levels and remove all hispanos and replace with 303 brownings only,  then we can fit in with the  :cool: crowd,

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Re: Spitfire mk V w/ "C" wing, Spitfire mk 21
« Reply #33 on: June 23, 2008, 02:25:02 AM »
if a spit 16 is on your tail turn LEFT .....16 can't turn for toffee to the eft has to do with the insaine torque from the griffon engine wanting it to turn RIGHT.You've heard correct dave the simple way to defeat the 16 is to turn LEFT.thats it nothing more deadly to a 16 than a left hand turn.Now can only "uber" pilots turn left?
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Re: Spitfire mk V w/ "C" wing, Spitfire mk 21
« Reply #34 on: June 23, 2008, 02:35:05 AM »
if a spit 16 is on your tail turn LEFT .....16 can't turn for toffee to the eft has to do with the insaine torque from the griffon engine wanting it to turn RIGHT.You've heard correct dave the simple way to defeat the 16 is to turn LEFT.thats it nothing more deadly to a 16 than a left hand turn.Now can only "uber" pilots turn left?

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Re: Spitfire mk V w/ "C" wing, Spitfire mk 21
« Reply #35 on: June 23, 2008, 02:56:19 AM »

Dear Dave,

With all due respect there is not a single plane in AH that gets E out of nowhere.  Climbs like a rocket?  Turns with most planes?  Who are you getting these amazingly general and inaccurate facts from?  I would highly suggest some research into facts and flying the plane yourself so you know the weakness/strength's of this plane before making such bold statements.  You are only showing your narrow slice of Aces High to be smaller than I originally thought.

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It does climb and turn with the best in the game.  It would be nice to have the full spitfire range, but there's other planes more needed.. Like the russian, italian, and japanese MIAs.
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Re: Spitfire mk V w/ "C" wing, Spitfire mk 21
« Reply #36 on: June 23, 2008, 04:54:27 AM »
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Or the fact that they get E out of absolute nowhere and climb like a rocket, turn with most planes, etc..etc..
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Re: Spitfire mk V w/ "C" wing, Spitfire mk 21
« Reply #37 on: June 23, 2008, 06:48:23 AM »
It does climb and turn with the best in the game.  It would be nice to have the full spitfire range, but there's other planes more needed.. Like the russian, italian, and japanese MIAs.
Hello Moot,

I am well aware of the 16's capabilities.  I am trying to get Davie over his Spit phobia, and you are not helping! :lol  His logic for why an additional Seafire variant was not needed in the game is because the Spit 16 is too Uber.  Perhaps you can help me understand this fuzzy factoid?  I agree on the planesets mentioned, they are more important than additional Spits at this time.  Would love to see some of the holes in the planeset plugged.

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Re: Spitfire mk V w/ "C" wing, Spitfire mk 21
« Reply #38 on: June 23, 2008, 03:25:05 PM »
I probably dislike them even more, but I welcome new ones.  The more of them, the richer the sights of spitfire wreckage raining down. Maybe you could convince Davey of seeing it like that.
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Re: Spitfire mk V w/ "C" wing, Spitfire mk 21
« Reply #39 on: June 23, 2008, 04:47:01 PM »
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Re: Spitfire mk V w/ "C" wing, Spitfire mk 21
« Reply #40 on: June 23, 2008, 11:10:31 PM »
I probably dislike them even more, but I welcome new ones.  The more of them, the richer the sights of spitfire wreckage raining down. Maybe you could convince Davey of seeing it like that.

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Re: Spitfire mk V w/ "C" wing, Spitfire mk 21
« Reply #41 on: June 24, 2008, 03:31:55 AM »
i like seeing spit 16 die by my hands  :pray when in the mk Vb or XI as it means a bag full of perkies and a "WTF :furious  i'm in an uber plane" on 200. much like when i kill a nik1 while in a zero  :aok
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Re: Spitfire mk V w/ "C" wing, Spitfire mk 21
« Reply #42 on: June 24, 2008, 05:05:24 AM »
Try imagining the face on a spit 16 whos on my p39Q's six, and get's reversed on in under 10 seconds in most cases, only to be chased down "why do they always run?" and plugged once in the back with my 37mm. :eek:


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