kills against manned ack

[Coog03]

Lol. Sounds good; i could use the money 

[Pannono]

who cares about getting kills on manned ack gunners? you cant get em any other way?

[Anaxogoras]

Gosh, most of you do not bother to read the whole thread or interpret everything in the worst possible way.

I said, at the very least, it should not say so-and-so landed x kills when you destroy the gun position.  What about that?

[Cajunn]

Since the kills you land as a gunner don't count toward your score (as I understand it) so presumably the death wouldn't count either - but what Anaxogoras is saying is that his death (which he risks when he attempts to kill the manned ack) would count against him, so therefore the kill of the guy manning the manned ack should count for him.

I don't care enough either way to have a strong opinion of my own, but I believe that that is the gist of the request.

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Makes since to me, if I'm risking a life going in to kill one I should get credit if I kill it.

[NoBaddy]

Gosh, most of you do not bother to read the whole thread or interpret everything in the worst possible way.

I said, at the very least, it should not say so-and-so landed x kills when you destroy the gun position.  What about that?

Well, I read it. What I gleaned was you want HT to stop field/ship gunners from getting the ego massage when their gun is destroyed.

If they take that away from the gunners, then they should let them score toward rank. BTW, the ego massage is all you get for kills in a manned gun...that and the satisfaction that someone was dumb enough to let you kill them. 

[Masherbrum]

Yeah, you know the topic.  I did a search for manned ack and there seems to widespread support for the idea that a kill should be awarded for killing manned ack, but I haven't heard of any follow up on the idea so I'm putting it here again.   It's especially annoying when you kill a manned ack and see the message that so and so "landed" x kills as a gunner.

Either do not award kills of aircraft and vehicles to gunners, or award kills for killing gunners.  There has to be symmetry.

I landed 9 victories, two times in a row from a Field Gun being hit by "The Alliance".   You'd have thought they would have "thought about it after I landed the first 9."

Why should I be punished for "someone else's ineptness"?    Please explain this.   You leave a manned gun up and hit a Rook base, if TopHat, Zazen or myself are on, planes are going down like Jenna Jameson in a pr0n flick.   

No symmetry needed, just "Common Sense".   "If I want to vultch, I must make sure ALL ACKS are down." (Not to be confused with the Exhalted Ack-Ack of S.A.P.P. fame and notoriety.)

[Motherland]

I thought Ack-Ack was the Exhalted knight of oxygen and altitude?

[Anaxogoras]

karaya, you are master of the non sequitur.  I admire you.

[valdals]

sounds good. i dont think it will happen. may even keep people from using them. but if they do we should get credit for kills and perk points. same with ship guns.

[stephen waldron]

  The entire kill system in AH is soon to be revamped.  You're going to see all kinds of new ways for pilots to score kills (other than air to air combat), Why?
Internet rate increases.  New players arn't going to want to spend hours and hours of expensive internet time practicing in the TA so they can score kills against other aircraft.  Not when they can easily pad their score by killing manned ground targets. 
  You can argue the "purity" of the game all you want.  It's a strawman arguement and totally irrelevant.  Because what we're actually talking about here isn't game purity..  it's about MONEY.   The game will be dumbed down for the masses. 
  So you might as well prepare yourselves for the day when you'll see bomber pilots with 100 + Kills.   

[Wes14]

  The entire kill system in AH is soon to be revamped.  You're going to see all kinds of new ways for pilots to score kills (other than air to air combat), Why?
Internet rate increases.  New players arn't going to want to spend hours and hours of expensive internet time practicing in the TA so they can score kills against other aircraft.  Not when they can easily pad their score by killing manned ground targets. 
  You can argue the "purity" of the game all you want.  It's a strawman arguement and totally irrelevant.  Because what we're actually talking about here isn't game purity..  it's about MONEY.   The game will be dumbed down for the masses. 
  So you might as well prepare yourselves for the day when you'll see bomber pilots with 100 + Kills.   

Who died and said you can decide what HTC does or doesn't do? 

[SD67]

Quote from: stephen waldron on Today at 17:31:49

[stephen waldron]

  Nobody died and put me in charge of anything Wes.  It's the way things work.  It always comes down to money.  I was really pissed back in the late 90's when game companies abandoned turned based strategy games and started producing first person shooter games instead.  But that's what the masses wanted.  Jerk and twitch video games.  That's what people wanted to spend their money on.
  Same thing is going to happen to Aces High.  CT is just the tip of the ice berg.  Aces High can't lower the subscription rate to offset internet rate increases.  They only charge $15 dollars a month now.  So the only alternative is to "dumb down" the game and address players complaints to make it more appealing to the masses.   
  So enjoy yourself for now.  Wander through the lush tropical forrest, ignoring the little fury creatures scurrying in the shadow of your hulking dinasaur shape. But whatever you do, DON'T LOOK UP !  Or you'll see the descending firey trail of the meteor bringing with it your EXTINCTION. 

[Masherbrum]

karaya, you are master of the non sequitur.  I admire you.

My post makes perfect sense.   If you do not want to see the messages, drop them soon.   If not, well...   

[Ghastly]

Because what we're actually talking about here isn't game purity..  it's about MONEY.   The game will be dumbed down for the masses.

How long have you been around?  A few weeks, or months?  I'd suggest you take some time to check out the HISTORY of the guys who developed this game a bit before you make sweeping, "sage" statements like that.

It's never, ever been about the money! If it was, Dale and crew - and their counterparts over at Cornered Rat - are just about the dumbest smart guys - or the smartest dumb guys - in history. 

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