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Offline straffo

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Re: The EU poofers?
« Reply #30 on: June 18, 2008, 06:35:06 PM »
structural funds


again ...
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Re: The EU poofers?
« Reply #31 on: June 18, 2008, 06:47:45 PM »
Quote from: straffo on June 18, 2008, 06:35:06 PM
structural funds


again ...
Ok Straffo I'll bite: 'splain the concept of 'structural funds'
<note: I think France voted down the first EU version via popular vote?>
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Re: The EU poofers?
« Reply #32 on: June 18, 2008, 07:52:27 PM »
Europe, if you do not study history, you are bound to repeat it.

Study the founding of USA with the Articles of Confederation and US Constitution.
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Re: The EU poofers?
« Reply #33 on: June 19, 2008, 03:01:47 AM »
Didn't Hitler want to "unite" Europe?
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Re: The EU poofers?
« Reply #34 on: June 19, 2008, 03:16:10 AM »
Quote from: bj229r on June 18, 2008, 06:47:45 PM
Ok Straffo I'll bite: 'splain the concept of 'structural funds'
<note: I think France voted down the first EU version via popular vote?>


Your country is piss poor ,it's infrastructure is poor and so on the structural funds (alimented by all EU countries) will give you money
it was the case for Ireland

concerning france vote it was so politicized the main question was never discussed !
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Re: The EU poofers?
« Reply #35 on: June 19, 2008, 03:45:20 AM »
Yep - same for Spain. It now has one of the best high speed rail networks in Europe, paid for by... the EU.

I don't mind this, despite the fact Britain has a crap rail network and we are one of the biggest contributors to the EU pot. By improving European infrastructure, we gain synergy and strengthen our economic position in the world. Note I said 'economic' - the EU does not need to be a super-state.
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Re: The EU poofers?
« Reply #36 on: June 19, 2008, 05:46:05 AM »
The irish will be assimilated! Resistance is futile! We are the EU.
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Re: The EU poofers?
« Reply #37 on: June 19, 2008, 06:02:32 AM »
Quote from: straffo on June 19, 2008, 03:16:10 AM
Your country is piss poor ,it's infrastructure is poor and so on the structural funds (alimented by all EU countries) will give you money
it was the case for Ireland

concerning france vote it was so politicized the main question was never discussed !
That's because every time we have a 'highway' bill, hundreds of billions get spent on everything BUT highways :mad:I'd agree about our infrastructure, I'd disagree about the country in general--we have the fattest, most tv-adorned poor people in the history of the world!
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Re: The EU poofers?
« Reply #38 on: June 19, 2008, 08:23:49 AM »
yep ghost.. it all comes down to that you feel that the people are too stupid to be allowed to vote and.. that socialism is utopia.. it has just never been done right before.. that with enough indocrtinization...  er..  "education"  people will see it your way...  or be crushed!

Seems the good people of Ireland are doing fine without you guys.

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Re: The EU poofers?
« Reply #39 on: June 19, 2008, 12:33:01 PM »
they are doing fine BECAUSE of us.
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Re: The EU poofers?
« Reply #40 on: June 19, 2008, 12:38:26 PM »
Give up Straffo. Some people simply refuse to grasp your point.
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Re: The EU poofers?
« Reply #41 on: June 19, 2008, 12:47:34 PM »
That the Celtic Tiger gobbles up structural funds to build economic muscle and then uses the Treat of Lisbon as a litter box?
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Re: The EU poofers?
« Reply #42 on: June 19, 2008, 12:49:49 PM »
Dowding,

Straffo hasn't been very clear in what he is alluding to. Perhaps if he actually made a cogent statement and explained what he has so far failed to state clearly it might be something to consider.
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Re: The EU poofers?
« Reply #43 on: June 19, 2008, 12:52:03 PM »
What Straffo is saying is that the EU gave Ireland a Shirtload of free money in the form of structural funds. Now Ireland doesn't want to ratify Lisbon.

He's saying the free EU money is responsible for much of Ireland's success.
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Re: The EU poofers?
« Reply #44 on: June 19, 2008, 04:42:40 PM »
Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner!

The EU needs to slow down if you ask me. Drop any more expansionist plans and any ideas of closer political ties. As for an EU army - perhaps certain member states could actually live up to their NATO obligations first? All I see in Afghanistan are US and UK troops fighting - the other nations seem to prefer logisitical duties behind the lines. Once the sovereign states of Europe can guarantee that an embarassment such as Bosnia could never happen again (waiting for US help to solve European problems), then there should be further moves towards closer ties. This issue with Ireland is just highlighting that the EU is largely a game of 'smash and grab' - not the basis for a sound partnership just yet.

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