Author Topic: Don't Talk to Police  (Read 1468 times)

Offline john9001

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Re: Don't Talk to Police
« Reply #60 on: June 27, 2008, 08:15:11 AM »

Well, personally I would NEVER want to put my fate in the hands of 12 people who were too dumb to get out of jury duty. They are easily led, which is why attorneys use their peremptory challenges to weed out the bright ones so they can have a jury of people who are easily fooled and easily swayed.



having served on a jury of a attempted murder trial, i can say your statement is completely false,

for the record i have also been a witness and a expert witness in other trails.

Offline myelo

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Re: Don't Talk to Police
« Reply #61 on: June 27, 2008, 08:19:35 AM »
If you need a card to remind you of your right to remain silent, when the LEO's will be telling you the same thing, you probably aren't smart enough to own a gun much less be carrying one in public.

And if you keep insisting it's a good idea despite everyone pointing out the contrary, you probably aren't smart enough to leave the house.


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Re: Don't Talk to Police
« Reply #62 on: June 27, 2008, 10:56:04 AM »
If you need a card to remind you of your right to remain silent, when the LEO's will be telling you the same thing, you probably aren't smart enough to own a gun much less be carrying one in public.

It's not about "smart".  When the mind gets into "fight or flight mode" and the adrenaline is pumping through your body, thinking straight and being able to logically pass information on to the first responders will be extremely difficult.  The card is a method to help you keep your mouth shut and still pass information on to the officers while you are able to take time to calm yourself down and get a lawyer.  It is not a "get of jail free" card.  It is not a card that will keep you from being arrested.  It is not a card that will keep you out of handcuffs.  It does not imply you cannot comply with the police when they arrive on scene.  My expectation of the first responders will they will want to get control of the situation, and want the "story" of what went down.  Whether you read this card to them or hand it to them, it keeps what you say to them to a minimum until you can consult a lawyer.  Which is the point of the videos, if you took the time to watch them.

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Re: Don't Talk to Police
« Reply #63 on: June 27, 2008, 11:10:22 AM »
That little card will have absolutely no real impact on how the LEO's will handle the situation. They will still mirandize you. Your answer once they have read you your rights is what they are looking for. It's a set kind of procedure. If that card gives you a warm fuzzy feeling, you go for it. If you had handed me that card, I'd simply be treating it like any other piece of evidence to be placed in the evidence locker for possible prosecution. It will be up to the prosecutor to either present it into evidence or not at trial if you are charged with anything.

Don't forget that there will almost certainly be a second trial. That will be the suit filed by the victim of your shooting or their survivors. That card will likely be very interesting to the plaintiff's attorney in that trial. They don't follow the same rules in a civil trial.
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