Death Penalty for confessed killers?

[CAP1]

If the death penalty worked. Then there would be no more murders. It's not a deterent just revenge. People kill like they always have. There is nothing new in that.

if the death penalty was ALLOWED to work, it would. since these criminals know that they're gonna spend most of the rest of their lives fighting it, they don't worry about it. if they knew that they'd be put to death quickly if they got caught, they'd most likely not murder

[Elfie]

I view it as the keystone of the non-recidivism program. To date, not one convicted killer that has been executed has ever killed again after the sentence was carried out.

Exactly.

I am for the death penalty. In this particular case, heck ya, fry them, shoot them, inject them....whatever, but do it quickly and don't waste taxpayer money.

[indy007]

it wasn't an accident.......the driver was drunk.

I have absolutely no idea what incident you are talking about. I was assuming it's hypothetical. See, there's still a problem with whatever point you think you're trying to get across. You're talking about crimes themselves. The death penalty is a punishment for crimes. That's quite a big difference.

i can't help it if you fail to see the bigger picture here....or shall I move onto your likely theory that we should ban all prescription drugs because while the drug companies and the rest of us "WILLFULLY" comprehend the fact that in a very small percentage of instances...some may die from said drugs.......the minimal risk is still worth it.

If you can't see the difference between making a voluntary choice to take a perscription drug, and the death penalty.... I've got nothing for that. That's the most bizare analogy I've ever seen. 

spare us the berkely mentality. 

  I would've turned water hoses and tear gas on the tree sitters already.

[Bones]

so what you are saying is if we could tell a kid had a possibility that he may be a violent criminal, that we should take them out as young as possible? (excess removed)

No, I did not say that at all.  You seem to think that everyone is salvageable, by your comment.  I was trying to be very specific.  Allow me to try again using an analogy.

If you take a high speed racing engine and xray the pistons for cracks and find some, then you replace the pistons as the engine will probably blow up if you do not do so.  This could kill the driver or other innocent people.

Unfortunately, if the brain of a person is defective, we cannot replace it.  If a person's brain is wired for violence, there is nothing we can do to keep that person from being violent. short of pumping them full of drugs to keep them in a state of stupor..  If our technology was advanced enough, we could prevent that person from ever harming anyone.

Now, that is not to say all violent crime is the result of someone being physically wired wrong.  As a race, we are all capable of violent behavior.  Our internal checks and balances prevent most of us from ever getting to the point of inflicting violence on others.  Once in a while though, it happens.  These are the gray areas and should be taken on a case by case basis.

I do not advocate wholesale usage of the death penalty.  I believe there are times it is the only option though and it should be carried out swiftly.  This case is one of those times.

There is also times I believe a person cannot help themselves simply due to a physical abberation in their brain or chemical makeup.  In these cases, they should be eliminated as well.

My opinion.

[slipknot]

Why is it that certain Afro-Americans are so fond of asking if the person they are speaking to 'know what they are saying'?

[ink]

No, I did not say that at all.  You seem to think that everyone is salvageable, by your comment.  I was trying to be very specific.  Allow me to try again using an analogy.

If you take a high speed racing engine and xray the pistons for cracks and find some, then you replace the pistons as the engine will probably blow up if you do not do so.  This could kill the driver or other innocent people.

Unfortunately, if the brain of a person is defective, we cannot replace it.  If a person's brain is wired for violence, there is nothing we can do to keep that person from being violent. short of pumping them full of drugs to keep them in a state of stupor..  If our technology was advanced enough, we could prevent that person from ever harming anyone.

Now, that is not to say all violent crime is the result of someone being physically wired wrong.  As a race, we are all capable of violent behavior.  Our internal checks and balances prevent most of us from ever getting to the point of inflicting violence on others.  Once in a while though, it happens.  These are the gray areas and should be taken on a case by case basis.

I do not advocate wholesale usage of the death penalty.  I believe there are times it is the only option though and it should be carried out swiftly.  This case is one of those times.

There is also times I believe a person cannot help themselves simply due to a physical abberation in their brain or chemical makeup.  In these cases, they should be eliminated as well.

My opinion.

i see you did not read further down my post were i say to kill, MURDERERS,CHILD RAPISTS,RAPISTS.
for there is no Rehabilitating these types.

[Bones]

I did read your post.  I took the part I was concerned with, as it sounded like I did not represent my opinion well enough and explained it in more detail.

[ROX]

Yikes, this thread may not end well.
 



ROX

[Kaw1000]

Lol  Death Penalty??? I saw on the news their is 500 and something death row inmates in Kalifornia.
 Kalifornia is way liberal...hence...these guys will never get executed...why even sentence the scums
to the death....it takes years for it to happen and lots of time it never does.
 The problem in this country is the laws are not strict enough...and the criminals know it...they
get caught stealing...slap on the hand......if these scums knew there were real hard repercussions for their actions they would
think twice....so we as tax payers have to pay for this crap.

[myelo]

Instead, I think we should use them all for medical experimentation.  why use rats when these guys can give us much more realistic answers in a shorter time?  talk about paying your debt to society......let them help us cure cancer.

It would violate damn near every research law and regulation on the books, not to mention the 8th amendment, to conduct biomedical research on a prisoner without informed consent. Besides, no ethical researcher would conduct such research.

[lazs2]

ink.. you need to re read bones post as you seem to not have understood any of it.

I agree that the death penalty is both and end to further misery caused by the person put to death and the end to his personal hell... 

So far as I know.. I can think of no modern case of anyone who was executed falsely.

I think the SC was wrong in their decision about the death penalty for child rapists as pedophiles are simply broken and unfixable and living in a hell we can't imagine.. it is a mercy to put them down.. we show more mercy to animals that are suffering.

lazs

[Hazzer]

  Verneal Jimerson,Dennis Williams,Joseph Burrows,Rolando Cruz,Alejandro Hernandez,Gary Gauger,Carl Lawson,Perry Cobb and darby Tillis.all these men were on death row in Illinois,all have since been found innocent and freed.

 in great Britain
                      "Timothy John  Evans,had been found guilty of murder and was sentenced to death by hanging. Christie had provided important testimony against Evans where the latter was found guilty of murdering his baby daughter and was subsequently executed. It was later found out that Christie had been an active serial killer during the time Evans and his wife and daughter had lodged at the premises; Christie was definitively linked to the murder of six women (one of whom was his own wife) on the site. "

 In 2006 at least 1,591 people were put to death in 25 nations, but 91% of those were executed in six countries: China, Iran, Pakistan, Iraq, Sudan and the US.

                       I hope the United states remains one of the better places to live ,unlike the other five country's on that list.Your more like your enemy's than you think.

[myelo]

So far as I know.. I can think of no modern case of anyone who was executed falsely.

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/article.php?&did=2238

[Elfie]

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/article.php?&did=2238

I think DNA evidence combined with modern forensics will prevent innocent people from getting the death sentence in the future. It is very hard to not leave some DNA evidence at the scene of a crime. DNA evidence has cleared a lot of people since it was first introduced. It will also prevent many innocents from being found guilty in the future along with providing hard evidence to link the real criminals to the crimes they commit.

[Pooh21]

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/article.php?&did=2238

Wow the cops picked all those poor souls up on thier way to the church choir while helping an old woman across the street.

my thoughts on the death penalty

The court finds you guilty
Sentance is death to be carried out withen the hour
may God have mercy on your soul.

Another simple solution if by the slim chance the DA sentances an innocent man to death. He himself and the Investigating Officer forfeits their lives. That will keep the Nifongs in check.