109G6, I'm starting to like it

[Saurdaukar]

I HO'd the spixteen (since I'm not gonna waste my time with one of those)

I think Im going to start doing this.

[angelsandair]

 

Well, with the chance of fighting Saantana and his spixteen, I didn't take a chance

[Oldman731]

Wow.... that's horrible...
the Bf.109G6 is probably the worst of the series. The fact that someone in a G2 was not able to beat you, with gondolas on your G6 no less, is kind of sad, since the G2 is one of the most well rounded of the series and one of my favorites.

The G6 is a lot of fun to fly though.

I've always thought that flying the G6 effectively marks the pinnacle of success for 109 pilots.

- oldman

[Motherland]

I've always thought that flying the G6 effectively marks the pinnacle of success for 109 pilots.

- oldman

Meh.
The 109G6 is probably the worst of the series in the LWMA save the Emil, however, I don't think that flying it effectively is so special. In truth, it's not that much of a step down in performance from the 109G2, the main difference being in speed; in the 109's most important performance field, climb rate, the G6 doesn't actually fall that far behind the G2. The G6 has two minor advantages over the G2, the guns and the armored headrest, which allows for greater visibility in the G6, though not much. The G6 'feels' more or less the same as the G2 in a climb or a turn, you just can't push it quite as far. I usually don't think 'chit, wish I had brought the G2' unless I'm trying to extend; there's a fairly large speed drop off. Though I think the trade off of extra mass cancels out those unaerodynamic bulges in a zoom climb. The main downside for the G6, IMO, is that it doesn't really fill a niche- the F4 is an excellent turnfighter, the G2 is a wonderful all-around fighter, the G14 is a great low altitude energy fighter and the K4 is a super fast great energy fighter at any altitude. On the other hand, we have the G6, which is just a crappier G2.

I do kinda like the G6 better, there are more, better skins for it, compared to the G2. And I like the extra hitting power, the MG131's can make a surprising difference sometimes.

[angelsandair]

What can a G-14 do? I flew it recently, it seemed like a G-6. But hey, I dont know these 109s... yet.

[Motherland]

What can a G-14 do? I flew it recently, it seemed like a G-6. But hey, I dont know these 109s... yet.

The G14 has 3 major differences from the Bf.109G6-
The Erla-Haube canopy with less frames making it easier to track enemies;
The ability to carry the devastating Mk108 30mm cannon;
And, the largest difference, the MW50 power boost system.

The G14 and K4 also boast a larger vertical stabilizer and rudder than the other 109's we have in game, though I have never noticed any yaw instabilities on versions with a short rudder nor any handling difference at all going from the short to tall rudder.

The MW50 gives you much better performance on WEP than any other Gustav, however it makes the G14 heavier, and, more importantly, its effects are only felt on WEP; the G14 is the worst performing of the Gustavs on MIL. However, this isn't normally a problem as German a/c generally have very long WEP endurance.

The Bf.109K4 has an MW50 as well, but the engine itself is also upgraded from a Daimler-Benz DB605A to a DB605D which means it's the fastest 109 on WEP and MIL. It is also the only 109 in game that is worth anything over 23k.

[angelsandair]

Ohh okay. So... I'm pretty much best off with the G-2/G-6 for lower alts? The overwhelming climb on the 109 has already saved my butt alot.

[Motherland]

The G14 is definitely the best Gustav. I've never had WEP run out on me on a German plane, the run time is insane, and the performance boost from the MW50 definitely warrants the extra weight. In fact, at some (low) altitudes the G14 outclimbs the Kurfurst. For high altitude fighting, though,  you definitely want to take the Kurfurst, or, better yet, the Ta152.

[Platano]

109 Ftw. 

[Xasthur]

The climb rate as similar right on the deck (K4 has the edge) then it levels out up to 5k where it's a dead heat. At 5 - 7K the G14 climbs better than the K4. From there it is even again up to 12k where things drop off for the Gustav. The climb rate doesn't get too hugely different until you get past 25k where the Gustav is absolute rubbish anyway.

WEP on speeds are a different story. Whilst the difference isn't huge (still a definite difference, though) below 5k, the K4 speeds away sharply as the altitude increases from there.
 

[Anaxogoras]

Wow.... that's horrible...
the Bf.109G6 is probably the worst of the series. The fact that someone in a G2 was not able to beat you, with gondolas on your G6 no less, is kind of sad, since the G2 is one of the most well rounded of the series and one of my favorites.

Well said bubi.  The worst way to go is to load the gondolas and a drop tank.  Even after you drop the tank, the rack plus the gondolas is like carrying a 500lb bomb.

[angelsandair]

Well said bubi.  The worst way to go is to load the gondolas and a drop tank.  Even after you drop the tank, the rack plus the gondolas is like carrying a 500lb bomb.

I dont mess around. Plus, when I'm flying against the usual tard in his spixteen or lgay-7, I dont take chances. I do load out the G6 w/o gondolas frequently though if I think the fighting will be on the deck or co-alt.

[Saurdaukar]

Meh.
The 109G6 is probably the worst of the series in the LWMA save the Emil, however, I don't think that flying it effectively is so special. In truth, it's not that much of a step down in performance from the 109G2, the main difference being in speed; in the 109's most important performance field, climb rate, the G6 doesn't actually fall that far behind the G2. The G6 has two minor advantages over the G2, the guns and the armored headrest, which allows for greater visibility in the G6, though not much. The G6 'feels' more or less the same as the G2 in a climb or a turn, you just can't push it quite as far. I usually don't think 'chit, wish I had brought the G2' unless I'm trying to extend; there's a fairly large speed drop off. Though I think the trade off of extra mass cancels out those unaerodynamic bulges in a zoom climb. The main downside for the G6, IMO, is that it doesn't really fill a niche- the F4 is an excellent turnfighter, the G2 is a wonderful all-around fighter, the G14 is a great low altitude energy fighter and the K4 is a super fast great energy fighter at any altitude. On the other hand, we have the G6, which is just a crappier G2.

I do kinda like the G6 better, there are more, better skins for it, compared to the G2. And I like the extra hitting power, the MG131's can make a surprising difference sometimes.

While I am generally of your opinion, I do feel that the G6 has better stall characteristics and a smoother sustained turn than the G2.  Just butt dyno, though.

[MjTalon]

109 is the plane. Simple

I tend to set my convergence on all of my 109s guns at 350 ( expect the MK 108 on the K4 ).  As xasthur posted above you really need to know the plane inside and out to get the full potential of the 109. I like the G6 for the skins  which are some of the best in the series IMO. But the upped firepower is a killer if your a good shot.

[ian5440]

I tend to set my convergence on all of my 109s guns at 350 ( expect the MK 108 on the K4 ). 

i usually set the nose guns to 650 cuz since they go straight out it does not seem to effect the shot but im with ya for setting the wing guns to 350-400