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Offline Oogly50

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Questions with death
« on: June 29, 2008, 10:14:34 PM »
I've been questioning death lately, and quite frankly, it scares me.

I can't believe in heaven, no matter how hard I try... I find it impossible, that when we die, we go to a place where we're constantly happy... forever, and ever, and ever. 

God is the same way for me.  There is NO way that some being, figure, or whatever you want to call him, could have created everything we see today. 

Plus, there are many different faiths and religious beliefs all over the place.  The Indians, for example, believe in many gods, along with reincarnation.  The Christians believe in only one god, and when we die, we go to Heaven with a fresh body.   
But, if all religions believe they are right, then all but one of them are wrong, if not all of them.  Because they can't all exist.

In my opinion, God, Heaven, and every other religion to date, was made up so that life would have meaning.  The Greeks had a god for allot of things.  A goddess of love and beauty.  A god of the sky, and a god of the sea.  But today, we somehow have discarded all that information, and we all somehow "know" that it doesn't exist.

If you ask multiple people what heaven is like, they will always have a different oppinion, and it's always some ridiculous story of how we "dematerialize" and end up naked in heaven...   :huh

If you ask a christian if god exists, they will say "yes".  But ask them what proof of his existence is there, they will probably say "because he is in our souls." or something like that. 

So, in summary, as much as it pains me to say it, I don't believe in heaven or god. 

So, when we die... we die, forever, and when our loved ones die, we will never see them again.

Please, someone, help me change my mind.  I want to believe, but I just can't. 
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Offline Motherland

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Re: Questions with death
« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2008, 10:16:09 PM »
Why do you want some one to change your mind? Accept the truth and get on with life.
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Re: Questions with death
« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2008, 10:18:44 PM »
Quote from: Oogly50 on June 29, 2008, 10:14:34 PM
I've been questioning death lately, and quite frankly, it scares me.

I can't believe in heaven, no matter how hard I try... I find it impossible, that when we die, we go to a place where we're constantly happy... forever, and ever, and ever. 

God is the same way for me.  There is NO way that some being, figure, or whatever you want to call him, could have created everything we see today. 

Plus, there are many different faiths and religious beliefs all over the place.  The Indians, for example, believe in many gods, along with reincarnation.  The Christians believe in only one god, and when we die, we go to Heaven with a fresh body.   
But, if all religions believe they are right, then all but one of them are wrong, if not all of them.  Because they can't all exist.

In my opinion, God, Heaven, and every other religion to date, was made up so that life would have meaning.  The Greeks had a god for allot of things.  A goddess of love and beauty.  A god of the sky, and a god of the sea.  But today, we somehow have discarded all that information, and we all somehow "know" that it doesn't exist.

If you ask multiple people what heaven is like, they will always have a different oppinion, and it's always some ridiculous story of how we "dematerialize" and end up naked in heaven...   :huh

If you ask a christian if god exists, they will say "yes".  But ask them what proof of his existence is there, they will probably say "because he is in our souls." or something like that. 

So, in summary, as much as it pains me to say it, I don't believe in heaven or god. 

So, when we die... we die, forever, and when our loved ones die, we will never see them again.

Please, someone, help me change my mind.  I want to believe, but I just can't. 

go to an open field. look at all the life there. the plants, trees, flowers, birds, maybe a hawk flying overhead. heck..even look at the weeds. all of the colors. all of the amazing life in that one spot.

now explain it all. where did it all come from?

that should help ya believe a bit i think.

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Offline Sandman

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Re: Questions with death
« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2008, 10:21:39 PM »
Quote from: Oogly50 on June 29, 2008, 10:14:34 PM
I've been questioning death lately, and quite frankly, it scares me.

What's to be afraid of? Everything dies.
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Offline Yeager

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Re: Questions with death
« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2008, 11:10:53 PM »
Dont fear the reaper.   The thing you should concentrate on, in those moments of deep reflection, is on dying well.  Dying like a man.  With your head up high and your chest puffed out
like a banty rooster.  What the hell have you got to lose anyway.

Once my dad died I was good with death.  I figured that if he could do it, so could I.

Love you Dad.
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Re: Questions with death
« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2008, 11:27:34 PM »
Oogly you've got some misconceptions on faith.  It isn't sanctioned by reason.  You can't "prove" heaven or hell or anything supernatural.

As far as anything you might fear, you should take a look at the beliefs behind those fears. 
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Offline nirvana

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Re: Questions with death
« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2008, 11:30:44 PM »
Heaven is different to every person because it is different for every person.  One person's idea of hell might be another's idea of heaven.  That's how I look at it anyway.  Honestly the way I see it is that so long as I die knowing that I changed someone's life for the better than throw me in a volcano for all I care.  Death is death, it happens to everyone and everything.  Why think about it if you don't have to? 

When it comes time to write a will set up your beneficiaries then you can but until then just live life.  The only time I truly thought about death was setting a life insurance policy and having to write my parents as beneficiaries on it at 18 years old.  I rest peacefully knowing they'll have material things to replace me if I die.
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Re: Questions with death
« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2008, 11:50:36 PM »
You're gonna die, that's just the way it is.  No reason to be afraid of it.  If something more happens after you die, then great.  If not, then you'll be blinked out of existence and you won't have the opportunity to care or feel regret.
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Re: Questions with death
« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2008, 12:03:47 AM »
Oogly50,
I have only one thing for you:

John 3:16
"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life."
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Offline rabbidrabbit

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Re: Questions with death
« Reply #9 on: June 30, 2008, 12:07:59 AM »
Perhaps you will find your best answer in how to live your life.
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Offline BMathis

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Re: Questions with death
« Reply #10 on: June 30, 2008, 12:19:42 AM »
It's great to see so many different replies to this post! That is what makes us human, and so special, be thankful you are one. Be thankful for everyday you are here... If your time comes, it comes. Not much you can do to prevent it.

We are here now, make the best of everyday.

I'm not one to get into religion, but it has its purpose for some.

"If it is to be, it is up to me"

 :salute

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Offline AWMac

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Re: Questions with death
« Reply #11 on: June 30, 2008, 12:22:31 AM »
The best is to hope you die peacefully and comfortable in your sleep.
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Offline Rino

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Re: Questions with death
« Reply #12 on: June 30, 2008, 12:39:25 AM »
     Oogly, think of it this way..death is the next great adventure, none of us are
really sure what comes next.
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Offline Delirium

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Re: Questions with death
« Reply #13 on: June 30, 2008, 12:51:04 AM »
I liked the book and movie 'The Five People You Meet In Heaven', it is exactly how I pictured it to be; questions answered, loved ones reunited, and completely in your own perspective.
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Re: Questions with death
« Reply #14 on: June 30, 2008, 01:06:04 AM »
Quote from: AWMac on June 30, 2008, 12:22:31 AM
The best is to hope you die peacefully and comfortable in your sleep.

Not screaming like the passengers in your car.
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