Excessive AFK in tower

[jarbo]

Tonight I watched the country numbers in Blue and noticed something.
There were 27 folks in country and only 15 in flight for an extended period of time.

The negative effect of this is that the ENY was almost 20.

I a supposing that many of them simply stayed logged in to "reap" perk points should a WIN occur.
But it is possible that they were legitimately AFK for a brief period.

PROPOSED SOLUTION:  After 1hr of inactivity in an arena (defined as staying in same tower for 1 hr), a player should be auto kicked.

I am curious how other members of the game feel about this suggestion?

Jarbo

[SteveBailey]

I don't care and don't see why you do.

[Getback]

I think if they are in the tower that favors eny for that country. I think.

[trotter]

You're supposing that people stayed logged in indefinitely in the hopes of getting a grand 25 perk points? Is there actually anyone out there who can't find an easier way to get a few perk points????? If anyone out there is truly wasting their time/cpu RAM for that pathetic cause, I may just stop playing.

Nonetheless, I agree that the 1hr rule is a good idea. A lot of people (myself included) go AFK for long periods of time, and in more than an hour, we do deserve to be kicked. Only fair for server performance, and those waiting to get in.

[jarbo]

great point trotter
i didn't think that "in tower" were not included in the ENY calc.....I could be wrong.

[Kev367th]

great point trotter
i didn't think that "in tower" were not included in the ENY calc.....I could be wrong.

All players are included in ENY calculations, whether active or AFK.

[Wingnutt]

I don't care and don't see why you do.

well smart guy...

maybe you should go ahead and print what he posted, and read it again, perhaps while sitting in a nice bubble bath so you can concentrate this time..

the gist is, people are going "AFK" for exorbitant amounts of time.. I.E. minimizing the game and doing... ???... the result being.. in this situation.. almost %50 of the country's population.. sitting in the tower.. causing a high ENY penalty against that country, despite the fact that the number of people ACTUALLY PLAYING.. is the LOWEST in the arena at that time..

ya get it now? or would your prefer a picture? perhaps a nice graph, with neat colors.

anyway, i think its a good idea.. if you do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING not even change bases.. for over an hour.. BOOT.

[SteveBailey]

well smart guy...

maybe you should go ahead and print what he posted, and read it again, perhaps while sitting in a nice bubble bath so you can concentrate this time..

the gist is, people are going "AFK" for exorbitant amounts of time.. I.E. minimizing the game and doing... ???... the result being.. in this situation.. almost %50 of the country's population.. sitting in the tower.. causing a high ENY penalty against that country, despite the fact that the number of people ACTUALLY PLAYING.. is the LOWEST in the arena at that time..

ya get it now? or would your prefer a picture? perhaps a nice graph, with neat colors.

I'm not sure why you chose to be sarcastic and demeaning, other than perhaps this is the only way you are capable of communicating but I fully understood his point. If eny for a particular country gets too high for your tastes, switch sides. Do you know how to do this or should I draw you a nice graph, with neat colors?

[Wingnutt]

I'm not sure why you chose to be sarcastic and demeaning, other than perhaps this is the only way you are capable of communicating but I fully understood his point. If eny for a particular country gets too high for your tastes, switch sides. Do you know how to do this or should I draw you a nice graph, with neat colors?

why was I sarcastic??

when your reply was "I don't care and don't see why you do."  .. pot kettle??

maybe I just wanted you to feel pissed on??? kinda like how you obviousley wanted Jarbo to.

"just switch countries" is a bulltoejam canned answer.. actually its not an answer its an excuse..

Jarbo has a very valid point, and what he proposes really makes sense...

if you really have to urge to REALLY take a dump on someone, there are tons of useless threads in this forum, pick on of those.

this one actually has a point.

[kvuo75]

I left when it was ~100 bish and 90 rook vs 50 or 60 of us knits about 4 hours ago... not to mention i was and still am drunk.


 

[SteveBailey]

why was I sarcastic??

when your reply was "I don't care and don't see why you do."  .. pot kettle??

maybe I just wanted you to feel pissed on??? kinda like how you obviousley wanted Jarbo to.

"just switch countries" is a bulltoejam canned answer.. actually its not an answer its an excuse..

Jarbo has a very valid point, and what he proposes really makes sense...

if you really have to urge to REALLY take a dump on someone, there are tons of useless threads in this forum, pick on of those.

this one actually has a point.

I didn't feel you pissed on me, I felt a completely useless fool had responded to me, you prove my supposition correct.
Since you didn't comprehend the point of the OP's first post, let me explain:  he seems unhappy that people appear to be canting the ENY while not actually flying.  I suppose he has issue with this since a higher ENY prohibits him from flying a particular plane, why would he care about ENY otherwise?  The obvious(at least to someone brighter than you) and immediate solution would be to switch sides.

I'm not dumping on the OP. He expressed a concern, I offered a solution. I fail to see why ENY is really anything to be given much thought to. I didn't suggest the OP was somehow wrong to care about ENY, just that it's not really something that's worth caring about. Were your comprehension skills higher than that of say, a juvenile of marginal intellect who was looking for an argument, you might have picked up on that. 

Feel free to riposte with more drivel, I'll stick to my opinion that worries about ENY are needless.

[Getback]

why was I sarcastic??

when your reply was "I don't care and don't see why you do."  .. pot kettle??

maybe I just wanted you to feel pissed on??? kinda like how you obviousley wanted Jarbo to.

"just switch countries" is a bulltoejam canned answer.. actually its not an answer its an excuse..

Jarbo has a very valid point, and what he proposes really makes sense...

if you really have to urge to REALLY take a dump on someone, there are tons of useless threads in this forum, pick on of those.

this one actually has a point.

Well said!

[Oleg]

the gist is, people are going "AFK" for exorbitant amounts of time.. I.E. minimizing the game and doing... ???... the result being.. in this situation.. almost %50 of the country's population.. sitting in the tower.. causing a high ENY penalty against that country, despite the fact that the number of people ACTUALLY PLAYING.. is the LOWEST in the arena at that time..

Do you know exact numbers who sit in twr for long time afk?

There are always some percent of ppl in twr, but it doesnt mean there are same ppl in twr every time. Ppl fly, crash, sit in tower talking BS, going peepee, looking for better place to fly, fly again etc. You want kick ppl off as soon as they apears in tower, just because you want your fricking low-eny uberplane, right?

btw, if HTC will kick AFK ppl, they will just sit in rear field in tank, will you feel youself better in this case?

[Lusche]

Usually the percentage of people in tower seems to be pretty much the same for all countries, regardless of having ENY restrictions. These are some random ENY numbers I noticed last week:


About 21% Bish in tower, 26% Knights, 28% rooks



About 29% Bish in tower, 27% Knights, 25% Rooks


So if you now would kick a certain part of the AFK pilots, it would affect all countries more or less the same. So total population percentages wouldn't change much.


However, when ENY really goes through the roof (>25) that seems to change somewhat:


47% Bish in tower, 20% Knights, 16% Rooks.
But the massive number of Bish in tower is not the reason for ENY - it's the result. That's no 1h afk (dinner, work, gone fishing) people, but players that were just stopped by ENY, hoping it will drop soon (but doing nothing to help that).
Remember, it's not necessary to stay in arena to collect your 3x25 war-win perk points.


In my opinion, the long time afk pilots are sitting there for reasons different from ENY. Most of the time it will just be for reasons like securing a spot in the favourite arena (thanks arena caps! ). If you kick players after 1h, it's very unlikely to affect ENY at all.

[Getback]

Usually the percentage of people in tower seems to be pretty much the same for all countries, regardless of having ENY restrictions. These are some random ENY numbers I noticed last week:

(Image removed from quote.)
About 21% Bish in tower, 26% Knights, 28% rooks


(Image removed from quote.)
About 29% Bish in tower, 27% Knights, 25% Rooks


So if you now would kick a certain part of the AFK pilots, it would affect all countries more or less the same. So total population percentages wouldn't change much.


However, when ENY really goes through the roof (>25) that seems to change somewhat:

(Image removed from quote.)
47% Bish in tower, 20% Knights, 16% Rooks.
But the massive number of Bish in tower is not the reason for ENY - it's the result. That's no 1h afk (dinner, work, gone fishing) people, but players that were just stopped by ENY, hoping it will drop soon (but doing nothing to help that).
Remember, it's not necessary to stay in arena to collect your 3x25 war-win perk points.


In my opinion, the long time afk pilots are sitting there for reasons different from ENY. Most of the time it will just be for reasons like securing a spot in the favourite arena (thanks arena caps! ). If you kick players after 1h, it's very unlikely to affect ENY at all.

Excellent info Lusche!