Excessive AFK in tower

[SteveBailey]

I guess you either dont play the game or never have to deal with ENY of 20+

I play the game but you are right that I don't have to deal with  ENY.. ever.  When I log on, I switch to the team with the lowest numbers, then attack the team with the highest numbers. Try leaving the horde now and then, you might have some fun, might learn something.

[CAP1]

why was I sarcastic??

when your reply was "I don't care and don't see why you do."  .. pot kettle??

maybe I just wanted you to feel pissed on??? kinda like how you obviousley wanted Jarbo to.

"just switch countries" is a bulltoejam canned answer.. actually its not an answer its an excuse..

Jarbo has a very valid point, and what he proposes really makes sense...

if you really have to urge to REALLY take a dump on someone, there are tons of useless threads in this forum, pick on of those.

this one actually has a point.

CAT FIGHT!!!!!!!!!

I GOT PIZZA AND BEER!!

[Masherbrum]

I believe this should say "ALL COUNTRYS" depend on the above stated planes..

Come fly bish,and you will see,but I doubt if you will..
                              Falcon23

I disagree.   If I were to have put that in the post you quoted, one would surmise that I "Depend on those rides".   I don't and neither does my Squad, or a lot of my friends who fly 38's.    

I've been to Bish many times and will continue to switch at odd times to wing with friends.   The Flying Circus doesn't grumble about this because they, like "my squad" fly very few Late War rides.  


The bottom line here is this.   If flying the perk planes "makes you or breaks you" in here, it's time you found another game.   Because you obviously are not applying yourself.   The "aforementioned" perk rides are a BREEZE for a lot of us to use.   We rarely use them as we now enjoy the challenge of shooting them down.  

I AM NOT stating this to "sound better", but merely to say "quit whining with these threads and find another plane that eliminates the purpose of this thread."  

[kj714]

To foil that tactic, someone could shoot them down putting them back in the tower. 

I guess you didn't really read it, I'm saying far away from the front lines, how you gonna find them to shoot them down or even know who they are? 

[kj714]

I think what needs to be corrected the most is that we don't have a "squeeker" smiley. It's a great big gap in the BBS ack. 

[A8TOOL]

Tower sitting is a prob and as old as ENY itself.

Don't let some of these jokers try to say otherwise.

Some of them just don't care, are looking for someone to flame for making a valid point on a subject that's been up for discussion before and failed or could just be generally a pain in the ack by nature () and love trolling around on these boards.

The truth is it does make a difference and tower sitters should have a set time limit placed on them before being booted. The technology is there, probably cheap but just has not been implemented into the game for what reason I don't know.

All in all, this is a very old and common complaint and it's your right to post it. 

[angelsandair]

I play the game but you are right that I don't have to deal with  ENY.. ever.  When I log on, I switch to the team with the lowest numbers, then attack the team with the highest numbers. Try leaving the horde now and then, you might have some fun, might learn something.

I'm bishop in LWOrange. We usually have a perkie bonus of 1.5+

[A8TOOL]

I should have mentioned that I do understand how some of the guys feel toward the lower ENY planes and the complainers who always fly them but there are many others out there that I am standing up for that are hit by an Eny of over 20 way to often.

Eny restrictions should not go higher than 16 if tower sitters are aloud to stay IMO

[SteveBailey]

I'm bishop in LWOrange. We usually have a perkie bonus of 1.5+

So you are whining about ENY because?

[falcon23]

I disagree.   If I were to have put that in the post you quoted, one would surmise that I "Depend on those rides".   I don't and neither does my Squad, or a lot of my friends who fly 38's.    

I've been to Bish many times and will continue to switch at odd times to wing with friends.   The Flying Circus doesn't grumble about this because they, like "my squad" fly very few Late War rides.  


The bottom line here is this.   If flying the perk planes "makes you or breaks you" in here, it's time you found another game.   Because you obviously are not applying yourself.   The "aforementioned" perk rides are a BREEZE for a lot of us to use.   We rarely use them as we now enjoy the challenge of shooting them down.  

I AM NOT stating this to "sound better", but merely to say "quit whining with these threads and find another plane that eliminates the purpose of this thread."  

 I dont disagree that you and your squad fly higher eny planes..I dont depend on them either,but to make a blanket statement as I see OFTEN on the BB,is that "WE,being bish rook,or nits" DONT DO THIS OR THAT is just plain wrong..too many times I have been shot down by who I thought were the "GREAT ACES" in this game,and they were flying 5 eny planes..so you know,it really does not matter what you fly,,its one persons opinion that they are N00B rides..

 The point of this thread is to KICK the ones who are just sitting in the tower,and my second ,I believe "VALID" point,is it also affects the perk multiplier for those with high ENY,which to me,should not be.I am flying a 35 ENY plane against the other teams 5 eny plane,and yet I get less perkies than if my ENY were at zero,.and all this when I DONT want to change countrys"see reason stated above",and have no CHOICE but to fly high eny planes..A good reason to kick others not flying..

                                                      Falcon

[Masherbrum]

I dont disagree that you and your squad fly higher eny planes..I dont depend on them either,but to make a blanket statement as I see OFTEN on the BB,is that "WE,being bish rook,or nits" DONT DO THIS OR THAT is just plain wrong..too many times I have been shot down by who I thought were the "GREAT ACES" in this game,and they were flying 5 eny planes..so you know,it really does not matter what you fly,,its one persons opinion that they are N00B rides..

 The point of this thread is to KICK the ones who are just sitting in the tower,and my second ,I believe "VALID" point,is it also affects the perk multiplier for those with high ENY,which to me,should not be.I am flying a 35 ENY plane against the other teams 5 eny plane,and yet I get less perkies than if my ENY were at zero,.and all this when I DONT want to change countrys"see reason stated above",and have no CHOICE but to fly high eny planes..A good reason to kick others not flying..

                                                      Falcon

If I have to go afk for 30 minutes to go to the store, it's MY CHOICE.   Not yours, or anyone else's.   What I am sick to death of, are these plague ridden threads that should not have even been started in the first place.   

You have three choices that you failed to mention.   1.)  Switch Countries or 2.) Switch arenas with your squad (I am eliminating your use of that excuse on #1) or 3.) Log off. 

The Knights and Bishops whined about RJO (one day a week) to get this implemented, now THEY HAVE HISTORICALLY been the most who whine about this "ENY".   

I fly the 38's, Tony, F4U-1, 109F4, and an occasional La7 for base defense.   There are choices, it's that most people don't wanna hear about it, they'd rather have "yes men" come along. 

[Masherbrum]

So you are whining about ENY because?

To hop on the bandwagon man, it's all about the bandwagon. 

 

[falcon23]

Well,if it is going to stay in place,then I feel that the PERK MULTIPLIER should be adjusted so that as ENY goes up for one country,that countrys perk multiplier goes UP as well..

                                    Falcon

[jarbo]

Wow, thank you all for the responses (even the sarcastic ones).   

I'll try to clarify a bit.
 1) WHY I CARE:  as i understand it, the intended purpose of ENY is for game balance and it seemed it was not achieving that effect
       under the situation at hand last night.
 2) i usually fly the jug, so the assumption that I always fly perkies or late war is false.
       to be fair, at that time i was considering a late war ride and was disappointed I didn't have the option given the number
       of folks participating on my country.
 3) switching sides does not allow me to fly with my squadmates
       during low numbers conditions (possibly even moderate numbers) if the squad switches, the issue transfers
 4) the time could be 2 hours instead of one... i was just supplying a starting point
 5) the timer counter for "inactivity" could occur at the PC side, not the server side so it doesn't have to cause a server load
       a) in addition, it could reset with any input to the game (move view, open menu, keyboard tap, etc)
       b) if someone comes up with an elaborate way to bypass this idea, then it is obviously important to them and more power to em
           option: buy a drinking bird to tap the keyboard every so often
             
 6) THANK YOU for the detail on getting perks up to 12 hrs after logged off; I was personally not aware of that, I wonder if some of the
     folks extended AFK were also not aware;
 7) I understand the frustration on not being able to get back into a particular arena; but (I think) excessive inactivity deserves a "boot"
     to allow other players to enter the arena, as a minimum
 
Jarbo
     

[E25280]

The thing that fascinates me is that these whines are about "excessive time" afk.  Yet the posters have no names, no evidence, let alone any solid proof, that the people who do not show up "in flight" have been afk for an "excessive" amount of time!

As Lusche pointed out, they could be doing something as simple as looking at their screen hoping against hope that ENY will go down.

If my choice of ride is ENY 15, and it says "planes with ENY value 17 or less are unavailable", the I will either "sit in the tower" clicking to launch, hoping one of these times it will work, or spend more time in the hanger looking for a plane I can tolerate.  I may even fly a plane I am not used to, get shot down, decide "I'm not doing that again," and so the longer-than-normal process of selecting an airplane begins again.  This will eventually cause a pile-up in the tower of people who are NOT afk for an "excessive" amount of time.

Even if I decide to walk away for a few minutes, and come back to a hopefully lower ENY, I STILL will not have been AFK for an "excessive" amount of time by anyone's definition.

This is a whine without a point.  It is as if I were to whine that Alec Baldwin shouldn't be president -- he isn't, so why whine about it?