Excessive AFK in tower

[Lusche]

I never noticed the %Waiting on the country status page.  It's 0 in all of Lusche's screen shots.  What is this "%Waiting"?

There had been some short lived experiments with different forms of ENY limits some time ago. For a short time access to a given arena was limted by ENY. If I recall correctly, you could either wait (or try different arena) or change country to get admission.

EDIT. I think I remember an additional another limiter effect... you had to wait some time before being able to up your plane when ENY kicked in... *scratchscratch* my memory is like cheese these days...

2nd EDIT:
HA! Got it:

Monday we will be implementing a new balancing system. It works with the existing ENY number. It will no longer limit what planes you can fly. But rather when it reaches a preset value, people entering the arena will not be able to fly in that arena for their current country.

You will get a message  similar to you are 3rd in a queue of 3 .

Your choices will be
1. go to another arena.
2. change countries.
3. wait until more people come onto the other side, or some one from your country leaves.

[Masherbrum]

It seems you are loosing yours. My argument is still the same, keeping people who are just trying to get extra perkies from making the ENY higher.

Rude and as immature as his post.


It seems that you are just proving my point every time you speak up. Do everybody a favor and just quit trying to flame on this thread.

Excuse me Francis, you have no point, because you and the thread HAD no point.    I'm BLUNT, but far from rude and immature.   I also know how to spell "losing" and it's NOT how you spelled it. 

[F4J]

I haven't read through all the posts in the thread, due to a lot of responses, but here is my two cents worth. I had to replace my hard drive, reinstall Windows and all other software, including Aces High. I log in a couple of times a week for squad nights, and after two months, I'm STILL downloading skins during the game. I have thought about just going afk in the tower and leave my computer online for a couple of days just for that. I love the variety and quality of skins available to us, due to the hard work of some of our people, but, apparently we can't just download them all in one big file any more. So, rather than having performance affected by skins downloading while you're in a fight, it seems better to just leave your machine logged in when you go to bed at night. The only reason I haven't done it is because by the time I log off at night, I've forgotten to do it.

[Masherbrum]

I haven't read through all the posts in the thread, due to a lot of responses, but here is my two cents worth. I had to replace my hard drive, reinstall Windows and all other software, including Aces High. I log in a couple of times a week for squad nights, and after two months, I'm STILL downloading skins during the game. I have thought about just going afk in the tower and leave my computer online for a couple of days just for that. I love the variety and quality of skins available to us, due to the hard work of some of our people, but, apparently we can't just download them all in one big file any more. So, rather than having performance affected by skins downloading while you're in a fight, it seems better to just leave your machine logged in when you go to bed at night. The only reason I haven't done it is because by the time I log off at night, I've forgotten to do it.

You're paying your money, continue to sit in that tower and download your skins.   

[Wingnutt]

LOL at "im downloading skins" as a "reason" for people to sit in the tower AFK for hours and hours. every day.

that happens once per install.. thats it...

[Lusche]

LOL at "im downloading skins" as a "reason" for people to sit in the tower AFK for hours and hours. every day.

that happens once per install.. thats it...

You have any data on how many people sit in tower " AFK for hours and hours. every day." ?

[Masherbrum]

LOL at "im downloading skins" as a "reason" for people to sit in the tower AFK for hours and hours. every day.

that happens once per install.. thats it...

You aren't too bright are you?   

[jarbo]

Baldeagl (sorry if i mispelled) You are correct, I have no way of definitively knowing whether there happened to always been 10 peeps in tower, but the 10 were changing, or the same 10.  I don't have hard evidence as i don't have any raw data to base it on.  I am just stating my perception. 

I apologize if my point by point approach offended some folks; i thought it was a straightforward explanation of my opinions.  I don't believe I made any personal attacks in this thread and have tried to keep it professional. 

I am not offended by differing opinions; hence my first statement in my 2nd post; its unfortunate some interpreted it as sarcasm.

I would like to hear more points on why what i propose is bad or good from a gameplay sense (unless that is too limiting a scope)

Jarbo

[The Fugitive]

There had been some short lived experiments with different forms of ENY limits some time ago. For a short time access to a given arena was limted by ENY. If I recall correctly, you could either wait (or try different arena) or change country to get admission.

EDIT. I think I remember an additional another limiter effect... you had to wait some time before being able to up your plane when ENY kicked in... *scratchscratch* my memory is like cheese these days...

2nd EDIT:
HA! Got it:

Quote from: hitech on December 10, 2006, 12:13:40 PM
Monday we will be implementing a new balancing system. It works with the existing ENY number. It will no longer limit what planes you can fly. But rather when it reaches a preset value, people entering the arena will not be able to fly in that arena for their current country.

You will get a message  similar to you are 3rd in a queue of 3 .

Your choices will be
1. go to another arena.
2. change countries.
3. wait until more people come onto the other side, or some one from your country leaves.

Thats what prompted me to make this little flash ditty <clicky here> 

Too many people worry about their score, or the war in this game. Just fly, fight, and have fun.

[Masherbrum]

Thats what prompted me to make this little flash ditty <clicky here> 

Too many people worry about their score, or the war in this game. Just fly, fight, and have fun.

     

ROTFLMMFAO at that flash ditty.   "NEVER!!!!"   

[E25280]

I would like to hear more points on why what i propose is bad or good from a gameplay sense (unless that is too limiting a scope)

Jarbo

It won't have any effect on gameplay at all, which is what several have been trying to get across to you. 

What it would do, is open up the floor for more whining and the remote possibility of an unpleasant slippery slope.  Still limited by ENY?  Still see people "sitting in the tower"?  Well, then, a one-hour ban doesn't kick people fast enough!  It must be shortened! <insert bazilliion whine-posts here> Half-hour then?  Same problem remains, more whining to shorten it to 20 minutes.  Then 10.  By the time it is over, you can't go to the potty without coming back and finding yourself kicked. This causes a whole new breed of whining.  And you know what?  Ultimately, ENY will still affect you, the same as it always has.

Many of the longer-tenured folks know that it is better to educate people about the situation rather than let them whine and stamp their feet indefinitely (which simply gets annoying after a while).  If there is any harshness in the responses, it is because the same complaints come up time and time again, and after re-hashing the same explanations over and over, one tends to forget the person with the complaint may not be "tenured" enough to have heard the explanations before.  Couple that with the fact there is a plethora of posters who would rather argue than learn, and it becomes far to easy to walk in expecting a fight rather than offer the more gentile/polite response the poster probably deserves.

[jarbo]

Fugitive I enjoyed your ditty
E25280 thank you for the polite response. 
[added late]
After re-reading it, i disagree with your assertion that it wouldn't effect gameplay.  i think it would for those during the late night times as it would better allow the purpose of ENY to take effect (limit plane selection for a side at a numerical advantage).   Since the numerical advantage is not representative of arena activity; then the ENY in effect is equivalently not appropriate. 

your point
"What it would do, is open up the floor for more whining and the remote possibility of an unpleasant slippery slope.  Still limited by ENY?  Still see people "sitting in the tower"?  Well, then, a one-hour ban doesn't kick people fast enough!  It must be shortened! <insert bazilliion whine-posts here> Half-hour then?  Same problem remains, more whining to shorten it to 20 minutes.  Then 10.  By the time it is over, you can't go to the potty without coming back and finding yourself kicked. This causes a whole new breed of whining.  And you know what?  Ultimately, ENY will still affect you, the same as it always has."

IMHO is not consistent with my original focus (which was attempting to curb excessive AFK).  I still think this approach would be, albeit small, a positive change.   

Again, thanks for not turning your response into a heated personal attack.

[angelsandair]

Excuse me Francis, you have no point, because you and the thread HAD no point. 

To you it didn't. I guess I should be modeling after somebody who's been playing for years... 

[Getback]

Thats what prompted me to make this little flash ditty <clicky here> 

Too many people worry about their score, or the war in this game. Just fly, fight, and have fun.

 

[Xasthur]

You're paying your money, continue to sit in that tower and download your skins.   

It seems that the courteous thing to do would be go into a low traffic arena whilst AFK downloading skins so that others can play in the LW arenas.