so if he got elected.....

[Motherland]

He will play the race card every time someone doesn't agree with him.

He's never done that. The media has, but his campaign hasn't.

[lazs2]

of course he plays the race card.. he talks about it constantly.. he talks of his racist minister as being a good man but throws his white grandmother under the bus as a racist.

He himself is careful to only look and act hurt when the media plays the race card.. he doesn't get up and say "BS.. the guy attacking me did it because he thought I was wrong... it had nothing to do with race."

I believe that he is far more racist than the average person...   I believe that he will allow the race card to hang over any of his detractors which is to me....

playing the race card.

lazs

[Carrel]

Welp....perhaps if the Republicans had done a better job the past eight years America wouldn't be throwing them out of office.

[Toad]

http://www.prospect.org/cs/articles?article=bill_clintons_party_of_one

Long periods of one-party rule, after all, are quite rare in American politics. Since the ratification of the 22nd Amendment, the same party has held the White House for three consecutive terms exactly once. This is no accident. Political movements tend to weaken when in power. They grow corrupt and unresponsive; internal fissures form and widen; the problems they were asked to solve fade from view, and the electorate turns toward new dilemmas that require new thinking.

I think the Dems could win this one with a screaming Howard Dean as the nominee.

[Carrel]

I think the Dems could win this with Voss as the nominee.

[moot]

Welp....perhaps if the Republicans had done a better job the past eight years America wouldn't be throwing them out of office.

Because it's all about which party is best, not what's actualy done. Koolaid wars indeed.

[alskahawk]

 Obama is what we get for Republicans not doing their job. The citizens gave them total control for 6 years. We have a 6 year old war, no border control, high fuel prices, record deficits, social security and a stumbling economy.  Its almost a certainty that Obama will win in November. The Democrats will gain seats in both houses of Congress. 

 The US economy is a massive beast and it will adjust to high energy prices and will recover, probably next year. The Iraq war will wind down. Its not too big a streach to see that Afghanistan/Pakistan will become the focus point.
 

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

Obama is what we get for Republicans not doing their job. The citizens gave them total control for 6 years. We have a 6 year old war, no border control, high fuel prices, record deficits, social security and a stumbling economy.  Its almost a certainty that Obama will win in November. The Democrats will gain seats in both houses of Congress. 

 The US economy is a massive beast and it will adjust to high energy prices and will recover, probably next year. The Iraq war will wind down. Its not too big a streach to see that Afghanistan/Pakistan will become the focus point.
 

I would not call an Obama win a certainty. If you remember, the same was said about Gore, and then Kerry. I don't think Obama is any better than the two previous candidates. Further, only Congress has a lower approval rating than Bush, and honestly, people are just as pissed at the new do nothing majority in Congress as they are Bush.

Iraq has improved dramatically, to the point where Afghanistan has a higher casualty rate for the past two months than Iraq. And it was staying in Iraq, and dedicating MORE troops that made it happen, not the program Democrats endorsed.

Only since the Democrats have taken a majority in Congress has the economy even begun to falter, and then mostly due to oil prices, which again only began after the Democrats gained their majority. The economy has slowed, we have not yet even reached the point of a recession. The economy has always been cyclical and always will be. That oil has more than doubled in price in the last year or so and not plunged us into a depression is testament to the actual strength of the economy.

Just like Gore and Kerry before him, Obama SHOULD win, given what we are "TOLD" about "public opinion". But it didn't work out that way the last two times.

[alskahawk]

 "I would not call an Obama win a certainty. If you remember, the same was said about Gore, and then Kerry. I don't think Obama is any better than the two previous candidates. Further, only Congress has a lower approval rating than Bush, and honestly, people are just as pissed at the new do nothing majority in Congress as they are Bush."
 
 Only if you think the conservatives will jump behind McCain. I don't think so. There are a lot of middle of the road Republicans upset right now and if they fail to vote that is nearly a vote for Obama.

Iraq has improved dramatically, to the point where Afghanistan has a higher casualty rate for the past two months than Iraq. And it was staying in Iraq, and dedicating MORE troops that made it happen, not the program Democrats endorsed

 Regardless of reason, and no matter who is elected, the US military will probably draw down in Iraq next year. "Its not too big a stretch to see that Afghanistan/Pakistan will become the focus point."

"Only since the Democrats have taken a majority in Congress has the economy even begun to falter, and then mostly due to oil prices, which again only began after the Democrats gained their majority. The economy has slowed, we have not yet even reached the point of a recession. The economy has always been cyclical and always will be. That oil has more than doubled in price in the last year or so and not plunged us into a depression is testament to the actual strength of the economy."

The Democrats will gain some more houses. That's my assessment. They probably won't gain the necessary 60 votes in the Senate though. Probably pick up like 4 or 5 more seats. Some of the strongest Republican seats are in jeopardy IE; Virginia(John Warner Retired). Trent Lott's seat will probably stay Republican though thats not a certainty. Best expert estimates are that the Dem's will gain 4 definitely and possibly as many as 6. As for the economy; it was more a result of higher oil prices and the dropping dollar than the change over in the Congress. Destabilization of the middle east and oil production, speculation to name a few problems. GDP slowing.

"Just like Gore and Kerry before him, Obama SHOULD win, given what we are "TOLD" about "public opinion". But it didn't work out that way the last two times."
 
I liked McCain in 2000 but since then I've soured on him. I never thought that Kerry was strong candidate. Nor did most people. He was too far left. Most experts predicted close race and it was; 49/51. Gore.. well that election was settled by the judiciary. 
 The last two races were close and if that trend continues 5% of the Republicans not voting will make a difference. Given that Obama is drawing record crowds and McCain lower than expected crowds. Could very easily be a landslide for Obama.

[DREDIOCK]

What we must start realising is its not one side or the other. But Both sides.
Yes Republicans had control. But it wasnt absolute control with everyone on the same page.

Nobody gets anything accomplished in Washington without help from the other side of the isle.

and the other side of the isle can and often do stymie things just enough to prevent significant accomplishments from the other side. And just enought o make the other side look like idiots.

Think of it like a chess game.
When playing chess you dont think 1 or two moves ahead. you think 3,4,5 moves ahead
Same thing in politics but much more complex.

How many good policies never see the light of day because the one side doesnt want to see the other side acheive a political victory?

Dont expect any changes in policies to help the economy,or in oil untill after the election.
For that you will need the democrats. And they dont want anything to go right untill they win the election.
Its just one more thing they can harp on and blame the current administration on.

What they fail to tell you is the part they played in creating the situation. Sometimes intentionally so as to gain a political advantage.

After all. Who blames congress for much of anything?.
Something goes wrong. Its always the presidants fault.

People blame Bush for the war. But it seems ot me a heck of alot of people in congress thought it was a good idea too.
People blame Bush for high oil prices.
But I dont see congress doing much more then paying lip service to the subject.
C'mon any idiot can see the current oil situation is a threat to the welfare of the nation as a whole.

Arent they they along with the presedent supposed to be protecting us against threats foreign and domestic?.

And you cant just blame one side. Both sides do it.

But. they dont at all mind us playing the blame game.
Keeps our mind and eyes away from the truth.

[Gunthr]

Motherland, you are aware that your avatar is Heinz Knocke, not Bubi Hartmann???

Anyway, I sure wish Gingrich would have gotten the Republican nomination instead of McCain.

Even so, I don't see Obama as a shoe-in.  I think this is going to be a wild campaign that ultimately accentuates racial divisions that already exist in this country.  A major weakness I see in Obama's bid for President is that so many of his supporters support him simply because he is somewhat black, without regard to issues and perhaps ignorant of them. (In other words, racists, like the many black people who were able to ignore the evidence and support OJ Simpson simply because they wanted to see a brother get over) 

Obama will find it harder and harder to conceal who HE really is and who his most ardent followers are.  I doubt he can hide or deflect his, or his wife's long association with racists, anti-Americans, and crooks. 

One thing about all this that totally astounds me, is the deep divisions in this country.  How could half of us think the other half are insane for wanting that kind of socialist, leftist, baby killing, large government-running- everything style of country, while the other half thinks conservatives are insane for wanting more conservative government.    ???  Its gonna be a wild campaign.

[Motherland]

Motherland, you are aware that your avatar is Heinz Knocke, not Bubi Hartmann???

Quite-I cropped it out of the cover of his book

[Gunthr]

  "I Flew for the Fuerer" if memory serves... 

[Motherland]

Yep. Great book.

[CHECKERS]

A Total piece of watermelon !