Author Topic: Airline departure SHOCKING!  (Read 1686 times)

Offline 2bighorn

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2829
Re: Airline departure SHOCKING!
« Reply #60 on: July 11, 2008, 02:01:18 PM »
Yes, and seatbelts are for communists! While this might be an extreme and almost useless idea, it still isnt restricted freedom.

How about somebody puts you in jail for your safety, so you don't get mugged by some pineappleheads? You'd be OK with that?

Offline Serenity

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 7313
Re: Airline departure SHOCKING!
« Reply #61 on: July 11, 2008, 02:07:28 PM »
How about somebody puts you in jail for your safety, so you don't get mugged by some pineappleheads? You'd be OK with that?

So, being asked by the airline YOU chose to fly on to wear a security device is equivalent to being thrown in jail in your opinion? So having a wife must be like a death sentence...

Offline CAP1

  • Radioactive Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 22287
      • The Axis Vs Allies Arena
Re: Airline departure SHOCKING!
« Reply #62 on: July 11, 2008, 02:30:32 PM »
Yes, and seatbelts are for communists! While this might be an extreme and almost useless idea, it still isnt restricted freedom.


nnooooooo...seatbelts  have always been safe. i've beend riving since 1979, and always wear mine. not because it's a low, but rather because i like being alive. it saved me in a head on too....but that's besides the point.

 so what you're saying is that you truel believe that if we all decide it's ok for them to put shock bracelets on us so we can fly(and don;t forget, the article did mention that they track you too), ytou REALLY think they'll ONLY use them for emergency? you don;t think they'll eventually morph it to a point where they control your everyday life through these?
 i know i'm sounding extreme, but it IS a restriction of my freedom if i should choose to put it on my wrist. it also is not even a close comparasoin to the seatbelt thing. seatbelts are common sense.  you're doing 50mph, and suddenly de-accelerat to 20 with the impact of hitting another car. no seatbelt, you're doing 50 till you hit part of your car, or till you pass through the windshield to fly through the air and land very hard.....

 i really wish our younger generations weren't so beadly brainwashed, as since the rest of us are getting older, you younger guys are our best defense from watermelon like this.
ingame 1LTCAP
80th FS "Headhunters"
S.A.P.P.- Secret Association Of P-38 Pilots (Lightning in a Bottle)

Offline Serenity

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 7313
Re: Airline departure SHOCKING!
« Reply #63 on: July 11, 2008, 02:36:07 PM »

nnooooooo...seatbelts  have always been safe. i've beend riving since 1979, and always wear mine. not because it's a low, but rather because i like being alive. it saved me in a head on too....but that's besides the point.

 so what you're saying is that you truel believe that if we all decide it's ok for them to put shock bracelets on us so we can fly(and don;t forget, the article did mention that they track you too), ytou REALLY think they'll ONLY use them for emergency? you don;t think they'll eventually morph it to a point where they control your everyday life through these?
 i know i'm sounding extreme, but it IS a restriction of my freedom if i should choose to put it on my wrist. it also is not even a close comparasoin to the seatbelt thing. seatbelts are common sense.  you're doing 50mph, and suddenly de-accelerat to 20 with the impact of hitting another car. no seatbelt, you're doing 50 till you hit part of your car, or till you pass through the windshield to fly through the air and land very hard.....

 i really wish our younger generations weren't so beadly brainwashed, as since the rest of us are getting older, you younger guys are our best defense from watermelon like this.

I resent the fact that you think we are brainwashed. The key term there is "if i should choose to put it on my wrist". Its a choice. I just booked a ticket on an airplane. One airline wants to charge me $25 for my first bag. The other will let me take it for free. I CHOSE the one without the baggage fee, same as you can CHOSE the airline that doesnt have this requirement.

As far as them only using it in an emergency, that comes down to where we draw the line. I think its okay for airlines to chose this method for an emergency. However, I would stand up and try to stop it if they decided to expand it to be used to, say, keep people in their seats as you mentioned before. Im not saying I WANT to wear the bracelet, I just see it as being stupid more than an attempt to rob us of our freedom.

Offline 2bighorn

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2829
Re: Airline departure SHOCKING!
« Reply #64 on: July 11, 2008, 02:42:26 PM »
i really wish our younger generations weren't so beadly brainwashed, as since the rest of us are getting older, you younger guys are our best defense from watermelon like this.

If you have to work hard to earn something, you'll appreciate it. For the most part, today's kids don't have to. Applies to certain rights, $$, education, privileges and freedom. Fault of our broken educational system and lack of proper parenting...

Offline 2bighorn

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2829
Re: Airline departure SHOCKING!
« Reply #65 on: July 11, 2008, 02:50:20 PM »
Its a choice.

One reason why children are treated as such and don't have certain rights and privileges, is that they don't know the difference between good and bad choice, right and wrong, etc.


Offline CAP1

  • Radioactive Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 22287
      • The Axis Vs Allies Arena
Re: Airline departure SHOCKING!
« Reply #66 on: July 11, 2008, 02:57:34 PM »
I resent the fact that you think we are brainwashed. The key term there is "if i should choose to put it on my wrist". Its a choice. I just booked a ticket on an airplane. One airline wants to charge me $25 for my first bag. The other will let me take it for free. I CHOSE the one without the baggage fee, same as you can CHOSE the airline that doesnt have this requirement.

As far as them only using it in an emergency, that comes down to where we draw the line. I think its okay for airlines to chose this method for an emergency. However, I would stand up and try to stop it if they decided to expand it to be used to, say, keep people in their seats as you mentioned before. Im not saying I WANT to wear the bracelet, I just see it as being stupid more than an attempt to rob us of our freedom.

DUDE, NO INSULT is/was intended. but you are showing ua a prime example. it always starts small. then they ""need"" to change it to do something else. then they decide it ""needs"" to be an extra charge. you are right, in that it comes to where you draw the line, but once we all let them get their foot in the door so to speak, they slowly morph it into what they want, and rater unbelievably no one seems to notice till it's tooo late.

 i'll campare it to a couple laws here ni nj..very simplistic comparison, but it might help.

1)NJ seatbelt law. years ago when they started using it, it was only for our own safety. it was never going to be a reason to pull us over, but if they pulled us over sor something else, and we weren't wearing one, they coudl ticket us for it.
 now, not only is it a primary offense, but they actually set up seatbelt checkpoints much like the DUI checkpoints.

2)EZPASS...on the NJ turnpike, and AC expressway, we have an ezpass system. was sworn it was only to help traffic flow and would be used for nothing else.
 i personally know 2 people that have recieved speeding tickets in the mail because they were timed through multyiple toll booth with it.


 i fear the next thing will be our newer vehicles equipped with gps systems....they already communicate with somewhere(i don't know who or where) and the GM's will call you and send you an email when your CEL comes on. they report when you've been involved in an accident. this means they track you in them.  how long till you start seeing ticket in the mail from thjese systems? or they just decide that john drove like an amazinhunk last week, so they shut down his car this week for punishment?

 now....you do understand exactly what brainwashing is, right? there are many forms of it. what it comes down to is making you WANT what they want you to want. so for the bracelets, they want people to want them, so they push the safety aspect. then when people accept them for that, they start doing the above mentioned types of things.

again, nothing personal dude.......

<<S>>
ingame 1LTCAP
80th FS "Headhunters"
S.A.P.P.- Secret Association Of P-38 Pilots (Lightning in a Bottle)

Offline CAP1

  • Radioactive Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 22287
      • The Axis Vs Allies Arena
Re: Airline departure SHOCKING!
« Reply #67 on: July 11, 2008, 02:59:00 PM »
If you have to work hard to earn something, you'll appreciate it. For the most part, today's kids don't have to. Applies to certain rights, $$, education, privileges and freedom. Fault of our broken educational system and lack of proper parenting...

whelp, i think i had it easier than my grandparents(they were my parents in every way), but i did however have to work for everything i have. you're probably right.

<<S>>
ingame 1LTCAP
80th FS "Headhunters"
S.A.P.P.- Secret Association Of P-38 Pilots (Lightning in a Bottle)

Offline RTR

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2915
Re: Airline departure SHOCKING!
« Reply #68 on: July 11, 2008, 03:56:25 PM »
Cap you are wasting your time here. This one does not understand that his freedom is forfeit for the simple reason that he does not understand what the freedom he is giving away is.

I just worry that this kind of thinking follows the young kids into the Airforce / Army / navy etc. How can they protect something when they have no idea what it is that they are supposed to protect?

I swear, some of these kids were born 90 years too late and in the wrong country.

I'm out.

RTR

The Damned

Offline CAP1

  • Radioactive Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 22287
      • The Axis Vs Allies Arena
Re: Airline departure SHOCKING!
« Reply #69 on: July 11, 2008, 04:30:33 PM »
Cap you are wasting your time here. This one does not understand that his freedom is forfeit for the simple reason that he does not understand what the freedom he is giving away is.

I just worry that this kind of thinking follows the young kids into the Airforce / Army / navy etc. How can they protect something when they have no idea what it is that they are supposed to protect?

I swear, some of these kids were born 90 years too late and in the wrong country.

I'm out.

RTR



good point.

on a lighter note/......

here's something we can do with these shock bracelets.........
hook them to the text filters.......rather than a mute when one curses, they get zapped.  :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
ingame 1LTCAP
80th FS "Headhunters"
S.A.P.P.- Secret Association Of P-38 Pilots (Lightning in a Bottle)

Offline lazs2

  • Radioactive Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 24886
Re: Airline departure SHOCKING!
« Reply #70 on: July 12, 2008, 09:55:11 AM »
yes..... you have a choice with seatbelts..  you can wear em or get a ticket.. if you get enough tickets you will  lose your license.. if you resist you will be jailed.. if you resist hard enough you will be killed..

some choice.

Seatbelt laws are immoral.

lazs

Offline CAP1

  • Radioactive Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 22287
      • The Axis Vs Allies Arena
Re: Airline departure SHOCKING!
« Reply #71 on: July 12, 2008, 11:27:44 AM »
yes..... you have a choice with seatbelts..  you can wear em or get a ticket.. if you get enough tickets you will  lose your license.. if you resist you will be jailed.. if you resist hard enough you will be killed..

some choice.

Seatbelt laws are immoral.

lazs

althoughj i've been wearing seatbelts since i've been driving(1979), i agree that they shouldn't be mandated by law. same with the helmet laws.

 it's like they're trying to mandate common sense, but it should be your choice, and no one elses.

<<S>>
ingame 1LTCAP
80th FS "Headhunters"
S.A.P.P.- Secret Association Of P-38 Pilots (Lightning in a Bottle)

Offline Serenity

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 7313
Re: Airline departure SHOCKING!
« Reply #72 on: July 20, 2008, 01:23:56 PM »
Hitler is alive in Argentina and the commies have an assault force hiding in Canada... See? I can do it too.

Offline Shamus

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3582
Re: Airline departure SHOCKING!
« Reply #73 on: July 20, 2008, 01:30:37 PM »
Hitler is alive in Argentina and the commies have an assault force hiding in Canada... See? I can do it too.


Aww come on.....a whole week and thats the best you can come up with?  :lol

shamus
one of the cats

FSO Jagdgeschwader 11

Offline Serenity

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 7313
Re: Airline departure SHOCKING!
« Reply #74 on: July 20, 2008, 02:13:24 PM »
Aww come on.....a whole week and thats the best you can come up with?  :lol

shamus

Ive been away for a week. Im still 3 flights and 2 epic lay-overs away from home. And I'm just pointing out how ridiculous you all sound.