Its not a HO after the inital merge..

[Wingnutt]

 
if you cross paths, get into it twisting and turning, and end up coming face to face.. and get yours shot off..

just keep your mouth shut..

that is all.


 

[DoNKeY]

If one was to use even a tiny bit of logic they would see how this statement makes no sense at all...




and yes it's still a HO.

donkey

[Sunka]

Ummm how can their be a question about what a Ho is ........HO= Head On, your going at your opponent and he is coming at you its real simple

[Motherland]

 
if you cross paths, get into it twisting and turning, and end up coming face to face.. and get yours shot off..

just keep your mouth shut..

that is all.


 

If you're face to face after the initial merge you both did something wrong and you should not take the shot.
Oh, and shooting someone after the immelman that usually follows the initial merge is just as bad.

[SmokinLoon]

It ALWAYS takes two to HO... er... tango.  Um yeah.   You know what I'm trying to say, donchya?  

What annoys me is that I get "HO'd" and lose due to a collision and in a few short minutes the guy that just HO'd me and won via his plane held together is shouting his guts out on 200 after losing in a HO.  "YOU HO'ing SOB!!!"  "You *&^%, nice HO!"  etc.  

[SPKmes]

Ok so let me get this
no shot on the first merge
no shot on the first immelman
no shot to clear your team mates six (pick)
only dweebs fly this
only Dweebs fly that
This flying lark is ....hmmmm

I'm just going to up GV's I think ...one rule ...I see you I shoot you

[Sunka]

Ok so let me get this
no shot on the first merge
no shot on the first immelman
no shot to clear your team mates six (pick)
only dweebs fly this
only Dweebs fly that
This flying lark is ....hmmmm

I'm just going to up GV's I think ...one rule ...I see you I shoot you

[Marshal]

Ok so let me get this
no shot on the first merge
no shot on the first immelman
no shot to clear your team mates six (pick)
only dweebs fly this
only Dweebs fly that
This flying lark is ....hmmmm

I'm just going to up GV's I think ...one rule ...I see you I shoot you

I agree it sounds like no matter what you do someone is going to 

[The Fugitive]

if you cross paths, get into it twisting and turning, and end up coming face to face.. and get yours shot off..

just keep your mouth shut..

that is all.

That is only in duels.

I agree it sounds like no matter what you do someone is going to 

Only losers cry, and it is because they can't admit that they screwed up their merge, or got out maneuvered as the fight moved on, or just plain suck at SA.

Planes are free, just grab another one and try again.

[humble]

1st of all very rarely is a remerge ever a HO. Now in a 1 on 1 vs a known foe I will not take a "face shot"....which I define as anything in the 20-25% off the nose "cone". Now going beyond that the simple reality is that judging your merge/post merge realities is an art form. Alot of the time in the MA I find guys who are pulling hard into the remerge and getting popped in the canopy and then complaining about a "HO".

The simple reality is that they flew an inferior merge and then pushed a bad situation to worse and literally forced me to shoot them prior to there actually getting around. 2nd to this is the guy with superior E that goes vertical on you to the point he stalls out totally and then is upset that you had dropped your nose and then pulled up into his stall to pop him in the nose as he flopped over.

My opinion is has been and will be that if you got "HO'd it is almost invariably your fault.

[Lusche]

Ok so let me get this
no shot on the first merge
no shot on the first immelman
no shot to clear your team mates six (pick)
only dweebs fly this
only Dweebs fly that
This flying lark is ....hmmmm

I'm just going to up GV's I think ...one rule ...I see you I shoot you

 

[Steve]

 
if you cross paths, get into it twisting and turning, and end up coming face to face.. and get yours shot off..

just keep your mouth shut..

that is all.


 

disagree.

[Captfish]

I'm just going to up GV's I think ...one rule ...I see you I shoot you

so your going to spawn camp? 

[Anaxogoras]

When I'm in the 190F-8 and already engaged with a bandit (and maybe still carrying ords for gv's below me), I HO on any second bandit that comes into the picture.  Well, maybe I wouldn't do it against a Typhy, but it sure worked well against an LA-7 the other night.

Bottom line is, when faced with a faster, superior maneuvering aircraft, the head-on is de rigueur.

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In bubi's defense, he's saying that turning the outcome of the merge into a coin-toss is no way to maximize your win %.

[Wingnutt]

disagree.

long story short I came face to face with a guy in scissors and shot him as he passed under me head on..

abusive PMs till squelch.