Upon Request....

[Banshee7]

As a request from a fellow AHer in another thread..i was asked to start a thread asking this question to get a response from everyone.  So the question is as follows:

What's the point in chess piece loyalty in a game?  We all have the same priviliges.  So what's the difference?

Enlighten me

[Masherbrum]

I just wish I could be cool like everyone else.   

[APDrone]

I would propose that it's not the loyalty to the chess piece, as it is the loyalty to those that fly under the chess piece colors.

Way back when Air Warrior was murdered, the squads migrated to AH and converted themselves to chess pieces instead of just letters. ( Az Bz and Cz )   These squads bonded in the realm of the new world and faced two adversaries whenever they took off, their opponent and the new game.

This bonding led to a kindred spirit that still lives on today, though perhaps not as intense as it once was.

That would be one reason.

Another is that, by human nature, we must hate and despise something.  For some, it's easy to direct that at a global entity such as a chess piece, while others direct it towards behavior or traits of other participants. ( toolshedders, furballers, HOers, Runners, LGay drivers .. etc )

There are those that do not simply view the country as a random grouping of players, but as a total team that should be encouraged to behave as a single entity with a common goal and objectives.  To leave one team to play for another could be considered heresy.

But, as with any definition of a sub culture, there are those that some of these apply to, and those that none of these apply to.

However, I would bet a lot of folks fall into at least one of those categories.

[PanosGR]

Difference? There is no difference. Is the plot that’s count. You create a path in your mind and it’s up to you if you are going to follow it. It’s all about If you are going to be faithful in your mind plot or not. Take it as you wish.

[redman555]

knights r the best

-BigBOBCH

[PFactorDave]

If the people I like to fly with always fly under the same chess piece, then there is never any question about which side to join when I log on.  Other then that, I don't really see a difference.

[Captfish]

well said APdrone  

I would say I have loyalties not to my chess piece but to the people, friends, squadmates and people I have become accustom to flying with. I dont care what you call that group of people they just happen to be named after a chess piece(rook in my case). Part of what makes us friends and squadmates are the fact that we share a common enemy.

[NoBaddy]

What's the point in chess piece loyalty in a game?  We all have the same priviliges.  So what's the difference?

The "chess piece" loyalty is no different than any other kind of loyalty. Why not ask..."What's with this school loyalty thing?" or national..party...spousal loyalty?

My opinion having been expressed....too much loyalty in a game of this type can be detrimental to game play. With that in mind, there are players and squads that will switch to a lower number country to attempt to improve game play (contrary to what ROX wants to believe ). Generally speaking, these are more experienced players and are bored by being on the side with a large numbers advantage. Others simply think it's more fun to fight against the odds.

While I applaud the country ho's for their willingness to try an balance the game play, I will not demean the players that chose to remain "loyal" to a country, squad or just a group of friends, those players bring things to the game just like the country ho's do. In the end, the most important thing to remember is to be loyal to the game.

[Banshee7]

The "chess piece" loyalty is no different than any other kind of loyalty. Why not ask..."What's with this school loyalty thing?" or national..party...spousal loyalty?

My opinion having been expressed....too much loyalty in a game of this type can be detrimental to game play. With that in mind, there are players and squads that will switch to a lower number country to attempt to improve game play (contrary to what ROX wants to believe ). Generally speaking, these are more experienced players and are bored by being on the side with a large numbers advantage. Others simply think it's more fun to fight against the odds.

While I applaud the country ho's for their willingness to try an balance the game play, I will not demean the players that chose to remain "loyal" to a country, squad or just a group of friends, those players bring things to the game just like the country ho's do. In the end, the most important thing to remember is to be loyal to the game.

Good write up

[SD67]

I look at it the same way I look at life.
When life gets hard do I pick up and move to a new place where things are easier for me or do I stay where I am, dig deep and find ways to do with the tools on hand?
Should I abandon the Chess piece country I have fought won and lost with for years simply because things are not easy?

[mensa180]

I look at it the same way I look at life.
When life gets hard do I pick up and move to a new place where things are easier for me or do I stay where I am, dig deep and find ways to do with the tools on hand?
Should I abandon the Chess piece country I have fought won and lost with for years simply because things are not easy?

I switch for the opposite reason, too much green around, no fun.

[angelsandair]

I would propose that it's not the loyalty to the chess piece, as it is the loyalty to those that fly under the chess piece colors.

Way back when Air Warrior was murdered, the squads migrated to AH and converted themselves to chess pieces instead of just letters. ( Az Bz and Cz )   These squads bonded in the realm of the new world and faced two adversaries whenever they took off, their opponent and the new game.

This bonding led to a kindred spirit that still lives on today, though perhaps not as intense as it once was.

That would be one reason.

Another is that, by human nature, we must hate and despise something.  For some, it's easy to direct that at a global entity such as a chess piece, while others direct it towards behavior or traits of other participants. ( toolshedders, furballers, HOers, Runners, LGay drivers .. etc )

There are those that do not simply view the country as a random grouping of players, but as a total team that should be encouraged to behave as a single entity with a common goal and objectives.  To leave one team to play for another could be considered heresy.

But, as with any definition of a sub culture, there are those that some of these apply to, and those that none of these apply to.

However, I would bet a lot of folks fall into at least one of those categories.

Some goes with their first squad. Even though I'm in a Rook squad now, I like to go Bishop from time to time to fight on RollingThunders vox. Still good friends with all of them.

[wrag]

The "chess piece" loyalty is no different than any other kind of loyalty. Why not ask..."What's with this school loyalty thing?" or national..party...spousal loyalty?

My opinion having been expressed....too much loyalty in a game of this type can be detrimental to game play. With that in mind, there are players and squads that will switch to a lower number country to attempt to improve game play (contrary to what ROX wants to believe ). Generally speaking, these are more experienced players and are bored by being on the side with a large numbers advantage. Others simply think it's more fun to fight against the odds.

While I applaud the country ho's for their willingness to try an balance the game play, I will not demean the players that chose to remain "loyal" to a country, squad or just a group of friends, those players bring things to the game just like the country ho's do. In the end, the most important thing to remember is to be loyal to the game.

Well Sir I've tried that......

me and a squadie went rook to help them with BIG numbers from the bish



problem is I rarely see the reverse.....

not sure I care to help when IMHO the favor IS NOT RETURNED!


In fact the rooks did what they usually do when nits were fighting BIG numbers of bish they attack nits too.... often in such cases there is SEEMS to be very little fighting between rooks and bish????............

Lately it as if the rooks WANT the bish to win the reset???????

hmmmm ...

easier kills when your opponent can't up numbers?


hmmm I usually go fight bish cause they usually have the most numbers and often fly what I think of as the DWEEBIEST 

Gives me pleasure when enough nits can get together to stop the bish cold   Doesn't happen often but it sure is fun when their BIG number DWEEBY flying attacks are stopped!

DWEEBY... you know they get together MASSIVE bomber groups and bomb the base so nothing can up THEN the come in with 20 or 30 to surpress and then capture a basically defenseless base...

OR they come in with 20 or 30 jabo and you and maybe 5 or 6 other up and kill em all, but soon as you shoot em down they reupped and come back and maybe you shoot em down again BUT pretty soon your low ammo and low fuel and they reupped as soon as you shot em down again and finally they get you as your trying to belly in.  Yep they just keep reuppin and dieing and reupping back at you again and sometimes they do this for 30 minutes or more.

OH and here is the BEST part!!!  Every now and then one of them MIGHT brag on 200 about how BADA** they are

Some of em wing well together but ......

Not too bad for padding your perk points as they're often in HIGH value planes 

I guess to them the reset is far more important then their perks or score or flying and fightin ?

[BiPoLaR]

I switch for the opposite reason, too much green around, no fun.

same here
plus i like to fight the horde
less players = more perks

[saantana]

I like helping fellow rooks out when they're in trouble, thus often called a picker but it creates a kind of bond between me and that player as I'm sure one day he will return the favour.
I don't find shooting guys that have helped me or vice versa very fun. I switched to bish once stayed there a couple and shot down some of the finest guys i've winged with, ofcourse a friendly <S> was exchanged but I couldn't help feeling stupid afterwards.
For me this game is just as much about team work in a dogfight as it is one on one fights with the enemy. I get just as much satisfaction from helping a country mate come back home safe and land his kills as I do when I land safely and land my kills.
Thats why I stay rook, and so does my squad, since 2000 I believe.