Author Topic: Pakistan: U.S. not hunting bin Laden on its turf, nor is it allowed to.  (Read 1176 times)

Offline ZetaNine

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Translation:  bin laden is paying us more than you are.

Time to cut off the money train to these scum bags and give them what they deserve.......
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NEW YORK - Pakistan's top diplomat said Saturday there are no U.S. or other foreign military personnel on the hunt for Osama bin Laden in his nation, and none will be allowed in to search for the al-Qaida leader.

In an interview with The Associated Press, Pakistani Foreign Minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi said his nation's new government has ruled out such military operations, covert or otherwise, to catch militants.

"Our government's policy is that our troops, paramilitary forces and our regular forces are deployed in sufficient numbers. They are capable of taking action there. And any foreign intrusion would be counterproductive," he said Saturday. "People will not accept it. Questions of sovereignty come in."

« Last Edit: July 12, 2008, 09:02:47 PM by ZetaNine »

Offline Pei

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Money isn't the issue. The problem is that too many people in Pakistan (including it's security services) have sympathy with what Bin Laden is trying to achieve and/or have too much to loose if he gets caught.

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I'm sure I've read somewhere that Pakistan tried to deal with them (in the mountainous tribal areas), and lost some 600 soldiers with no tangible results....hmmm have to look
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If Osama was caught, his value as a bogeyman would be spent. People might actually question why persons who are obviously not terrorists are being strip-searched at the airport, and if he is caught in Pakistan, people might get out their maps and notice that Pakistan is nowhere near Iraq. That would be be harmful to plans, and cannot be allowed.
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If Osama was caught, his value as a bogeyman would be spent. People might actually question why persons who are obviously not terrorists are being strip-searched at the airport, and if he is caught in Pakistan, people might get out their maps and notice that Pakistan is nowhere near Iraq. That would be be harmful to plans, and cannot be allowed.

     Sorry to disturb your tinfoil helmet rap, but Pakistan is very close indeed to our guys in Afghanistan and
is an annoying refuge to our enemies. 
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Yes, but everybody always freaks out about Iraq...

Something huge happens in Afghanistan and they get nothing on the news, the slightest thing gets front-page headlines on the Clinton News Network...  :rolleyes: (really over-exaggerating it)
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It's not just hiding bin laden that bothers me........it's their inability to control their own mountainous borders that have taliban coming over from pakistan.......laying fire on our guys.......then running back over the border where they are given this virtual immunity....if pakistan could handle things that would be one thing.......but they can't.

that said......this just might be political rhetoric.  say what you want about bush......but the man has no ego......and he's smart in allowing this jerk in pakistan as well as the leader in iraq to spout off at the mouth....which empowers these cats to their own people...which in turn...is in our best interests.

I'm thinking the reality is bush tells them to talk tough and talk about their soverighnty.......and in exchange.....he keeps his mouth while in reality we are sending in covert and overt ops day and night.... win/win
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Are you a bit too  :noid?
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Or, is he not :noid enough?
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This type of war in the mountains of Afganistan and Pakistan is very hard to win just ask the Russians :O O yea but that was when the US was backing the terrorists  :aok
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     Sorry to disturb your tinfoil helmet rap, but Pakistan is very close indeed to our guys in Afghanistan and
is an annoying refuge to our enemies. 

But still not very close to Iraq.

I believe that with the resources available to the U.S., they could have had Osama's head by now, if that were the point. I believe Osama may in fact have been killed. I don't believe we will know for a very long, if ever, the real fate of bin Laden, for the reasons I stated.

9/11 represented a good opportunity for the government to increase its power without the people raising a fuss, and they have made the most of it.


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This type of war in the mountains of Afganistan and Pakistan is very hard to win just ask the Russians :O O yea but that was when the US was backing the terrorists  :aok

Yes, but the Americans didn't slaughter Civilians. So the Civilians are backing the Americans a bunch there.
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9/11 represented a good opportunity for the government to increase its power without the people raising a fuss, and they have made the most of it.



Your tin hat is way too freaking tight. You must be buying into the conspiracy theory really big.
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Your tin hat is way too freaking tight. You must be buying into the conspiracy theory really big.

Is he also buying into the "The govt bombed the World Trade Center even though thousands  of people saw a plane hit it!"
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Is he also buying into the "The govt bombed the World Trade Center even though thousands  of people saw a plane hit it!"

Ah, a lovely paper tiger for you to tear down. But not mine. Why would they need to engineer their own act of terrorism? So many lunatics willing to do the deed for them.

It is also possible, maybe even probable, that the Reichstag fire was actually set by a Communist partisan. This does not change the fact that the incident was milked for all it was worth by the Nazis.