Pakistan: U.S. not hunting bin Laden on its turf, nor is it allowed to.

[BnZ]

just got back from checking some historical documents...........and what do you know......that's how this country was formed...

read...the...rest...of...the. ..sentence

"I am rather fond of them, and think they are the backbone of this country..."

Although, case in point, Tom Jefferson and several other great thinkers in the service of Liberty were rather un-religious to say the least. However, as long as we all agree on the "Guns and Guts" part, 

[ZetaNine]

God bless you.

[Elfie]

This type of war in the mountains of Afganistan and Pakistan is very hard to win just ask the Russians O yea but that was when the US was backing the terrorists 

That's not an accurate statement and you know it. When the USSR was in Afghanistan the US covertly supplied the Muhajadeen (sp?) with weapons. The fact that Osama bin Turdhead was there helping the Afghans fight a foreign power in their country is irrelevant because Mr. Turdhead was not yet a terrorist.

[BnZ]

anyone here know any americans who have been able to prove they were damaged as a result of their rights being taken away by the patriot act?

http://garlinggauge.com/wp-content/plugins/vipers-video-quicktags/resources/flvplayer.swf?file=http%3A%2F%2Fgarlinggauge.com%2Fvideos%2Ffoxpatriot.flv

Andrew Napolitano on the problematical aspects of the Patriot Act. He must be some sort of pinko-commie nut of course...  

And frankly, what is going on in the airports is AT LEAST as disturbing to me as the Patriot Act. Probably more so. Thousands of Americans getting their dignity infringed upon by minimally-sentinent security drones as part of an abysmally stupid policy, and they mostly sit still for it. Of course, there was that one woman who got a little snotty about the drone pawing through her clothes, she obviously being a middle-class American chick. So she gets thrown to the ground and charged with disorderly conduct. I have had jobs before where I had to deal with female customers getting fairly indignant over this or that, it can be pretty annoying. However, if you are a Wal-Mart clerk or something and you hurl a woman to the ground for getting snotty
with you, YOU are the one who will be hauled off to jail, and rightly so.

[Mojava]

 Bin Laden died in the Tora Bora mountains in 2001.  Here's a little conspiracy theory to work you up a bit http://www.teamliberty.net/id267.html

[FrodeMk3]

That's not an accurate statement and you know it. When the USSR was in Afghanistan the US covertly supplied the Muhajadeen (sp?) with weapons. The fact that Osama bin Turdhead was there helping the Afghans fight a foreign power in their country is irrelevant because Mr. Turdhead was not yet a terrorist.

One man's Freedom fighter is another man's terrorist. It's all a point of view. What's really ironic...My brother still has back issues' of Soldier of Fortune magazine where those journalists' travel to afghanistan and actually live with, and help train those same Taliban guerillas. Why? Because at that time, Osama bin Laden was out there killing communists, which was something that people here only wished they could do. Mr. Turdhead was out there living the Redneck dream.

I'd tell you what the real $64 million dollar question is, though. Were we always' supporting a(n) Islamic radical, or did something happen to make him have a change of heart...?

[Elfie]

One man's Freedom fighter is another man's terrorist. It's all a point of view. What's really ironic...My brother still has back issues' of Soldier of Fortune magazine where those journalists' travel to afghanistan and actually live with, and help train those same Taliban guerillas. Why? Because at that time, Osama bin Laden was out there killing communists, which was something that people here only wished they could do. Mr. Turdhead was out there living the Redneck dream.

I'd tell you what the real $64 million dollar question is, though. Were we always' supporting a(n) Islamic radical, or did something happen to make him have a change of heart...?

They weren't terrorists back then because they were hitting military targets and not civilian targets. Imo, that makes all the difference in the world.

I think Mr. Turdhead has always held his extremist views, I'm just not sure exactly when he started viewing America as the Great Satan.