THIS GUY needs to be running for President......

[Hornet33]

MT I think the point the author of that artical was trying to make is that within the black community there is a MAJOR lack of personal accountability and that the black commuinity needs to sddress that lack of personal accountability if they are ever going to get past the "racism" and dependance on the government that affects the black community.

Now I've never considered myself a racists person. I have now and have had in the past plenty of close personal friends of different color, religion, ethnicity, whatever. BUT at the same time I also live in area that is mostly government subsidized HUD homes and apartments and for the MOST part the people that live in those homes and apartments are black. They receive wellfare and every other government benifit they can get their hands on and yet I see them everyday standing on the corner doing nothing. Yet when you drive through those housing projects I can look at $2000-3000 rims on brand new cars and SUV's that I could afford on my best day and I make over $65000 a year working 40 hours a week at my job. How does that happen?

I was behind a young black woman last night at 7-11 checking out. She had 2 kids with her. When she went to pay for her items she used her food stamps, walked out the door and climbed in to a brand new 2008 Jaguar and drove off. What the hell is that all about? I'm still making payments on the USED 2001 Dodge Ram pickup I drive and I HAD to buy a used truck because I couldn't afford a new one. Then again I also pay full rent on my apartment, I don't get wellfare, or food stamps, or any other government benifit other than my military retirement. Woo Hooo a whole wopping $1700 a month for 20 years of service and during HALF of that time I made less than the National poverty level and even then I didn't receive government benifits.

So when I SEE stuff like this every day, and EVERY time I see it, it's someone within the black community scamming the government for every penny they can get and then blow it all on "bling" and then they complain because the government isn't doing enough for them, well yeah it pisses me off, and I guess it pissed off the author of that artical as well, and rightly so.

You should be pissed off when you see that stuff too. If your not then your doing nothing more than enabling that behavior and promoting it. Do you NOT see a problem with that? It has developed into a problem within the black community. Sure there are plenty of whites, mexicans, and people of other race living on the government dole but how often do you see them riding around in brand new luxury cars, wearing the latest $150 pair of sneakers, and enough gold hanging off their necks to anchor an aircraft carrier? How do they get the money to pay for all of that stuff, yet they are still living in HUD housing? You woud think if they had a job and were making that kind of money they would buy a nice home.

Personal accountability.

[ZetaNine]

kudos hornet....

perhaps one of the best written posts I've seen here........please try to post more.

ps- I think MT knows these things...and he's having a little fun playing the contraty card.

MT I think the point the author of that artical was trying to make is that within the black community there is a MAJOR lack of personal accountability and that the black commuinity needs to sddress that lack of personal accountability if they are ever going to get past the "racism" and dependance on the government that affects the black community.

Now I've never considered myself a racists person. I have now and have had in the past plenty of close personal friends of different color, religion, ethnicity, whatever. BUT at the same time I also live in area that is mostly government subsidized HUD homes and apartments and for the MOST part the people that live in those homes and apartments are black. They receive wellfare and every other government benifit they can get their hands on and yet I see them everyday standing on the corner doing nothing. Yet when you drive through those housing projects I can look at $2000-3000 rims on brand new cars and SUV's that I could afford on my best day and I make over $65000 a year working 40 hours a week at my job. How does that happen?

I was behind a young black woman last night at 7-11 checking out. She had 2 kids with her. When she went to pay for her items she used her food stamps, walked out the door and climbed in to a brand new 2008 Jaguar and drove off. What the hell is that all about? I'm still making payments on the USED 2001 Dodge Ram pickup I drive and I HAD to buy a used truck because I couldn't afford a new one. Then again I also pay full rent on my apartment, I don't get wellfare, or food stamps, or any other government benifit other than my military retirement. Woo Hooo a whole wopping $1700 a month for 20 years of service and during HALF of that time I made less than the National poverty level and even then I didn't receive government benifits.

So when I SEE stuff like this every day, and EVERY time I see it, it's someone within the black community scamming the government for every penny they can get and then blow it all on "bling" and then they complain because the government isn't doing enough for them, well yeah it pisses me off, and I guess it pissed off the author of that artical as well, and rightly so.

You should be pissed off when you see that stuff too. If your not then your doing nothing more than enabling that behavior and promoting it. Do you NOT see a problem with that? It has developed into a problem within the black community. Sure there are plenty of whites, mexicans, and people of other race living on the government dole but how often do you see them riding around in brand new luxury cars, wearing the latest $150 pair of sneakers, and enough gold hanging off their necks to anchor an aircraft carrier? How do they get the money to pay for all of that stuff, yet they are still living in HUD housing? You woud think if they had a job and were making that kind of money they would buy a nice home.

Personal accountability.

[lasersailor184]

MT I think the point the author of that artical was trying to make is that within the black community there is a MAJOR lack of personal accountability and that the black commuinity needs to sddress that lack of personal accountability if they are ever going to get past the "racism" and dependance on the government that affects the black community.

Now I've never considered myself a racists person. I have now and have had in the past plenty of close personal friends of different color, religion, ethnicity, whatever. BUT at the same time I also live in area that is mostly government subsidized HUD homes and apartments and for the MOST part the people that live in those homes and apartments are black. They receive wellfare and every other government benifit they can get their hands on and yet I see them everyday standing on the corner doing nothing. Yet when you drive through those housing projects I can look at $2000-3000 rims on brand new cars and SUV's that I could afford on my best day and I make over $65000 a year working 40 hours a week at my job. How does that happen?

I was behind a young black woman last night at 7-11 checking out. She had 2 kids with her. When she went to pay for her items she used her food stamps, walked out the door and climbed in to a brand new 2008 Jaguar and drove off. What the hell is that all about? I'm still making payments on the USED 2001 Dodge Ram pickup I drive and I HAD to buy a used truck because I couldn't afford a new one. Then again I also pay full rent on my apartment, I don't get wellfare, or food stamps, or any other government benifit other than my military retirement. Woo Hooo a whole wopping $1700 a month for 20 years of service and during HALF of that time I made less than the National poverty level and even then I didn't receive government benifits.

So when I SEE stuff like this every day, and EVERY time I see it, it's someone within the black community scamming the government for every penny they can get and then blow it all on "bling" and then they complain because the government isn't doing enough for them, well yeah it pisses me off, and I guess it pissed off the author of that artical as well, and rightly so.

You should be pissed off when you see that stuff too. If your not then your doing nothing more than enabling that behavior and promoting it. Do you NOT see a problem with that? It has developed into a problem within the black community. Sure there are plenty of whites, mexicans, and people of other race living on the government dole but how often do you see them riding around in brand new luxury cars, wearing the latest $150 pair of sneakers, and enough gold hanging off their necks to anchor an aircraft carrier? How do they get the money to pay for all of that stuff, yet they are still living in HUD housing? You woud think if they had a job and were making that kind of money they would buy a nice home.

Personal accountability.

I'm going to turn the welfare tap off sometime in the future.  There will be real reasons why this is done, including stopping the redistribution of money.


However, I am keenly aware how funny the reaction will be when the free money dries up in some communities.  It'll be a riot (pun fully intended).

[midnight Target]

Ahhh  the mods have ensured that you all can continue to change the subject of the original post to "personal responsibility". Too bad.

[mietla]

You remember wrong.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvINgJvd2Uc

your video kind of kills your contention. The only white person on this video was the reporter.

Many (if not most) who see the video will say: "Black people (including the cops) are looting", but you keep qualifying it with "people who happen to be black are looting"

[ZetaNine]

Ahhh  the mods have ensured that you all can continue to change the subject of the original post to "personal responsibility". Too bad.

what is this "thing" you have with that?

you want to keep this thread specifically related to me saying the guy should be our next president because that's what I said in the thread title?
conversations flow and adapt and change........

[ZetaNine]

17- Threads started devoid of commentary will not be allowed (i.e. links, cut-n-pastes, clicky, read this...)

edit:  I don't get this.......I added two lines of commentary at the very top of this article?  and I always space my comments with ++++ so the mods and readers will know it's not part of the article.

[Hornet33]

Ahhh  the mods have ensured that you all can continue to change the subject of the original post to "personal responsibility". Too bad.

If I'm not mistaken and I KNOW for a fact I'm not, the ENTIRE point of the artical that started this entire thread was about the personal resposiblity or lack there of in the black community.

The FACT that Zeta started this thread with the title he did, and used the artical as the basis for why he thinks this guy should be running for President must be because he agrees with the author that within the black community there is a general lack of personal responsibility and that the black community as a whole needs to address the issue themselves and stop blamming everyone else when things don't go their way.

OR do you just want to sit back and blame the mods because your argument isn't going your way?

[midnight Target]

your video kind of kills your contention. The only white person on this video was the reporter.

Many (if not most) who see the video will say: "Black people (including the cops) are looting", but you keep qualifying it with "people who happen to be black are looting"

Did you see a female cop threaten anyone with a gun?

[midnight Target]

what is this "thing" you have with that?

you want to keep this thread specifically related to me saying the guy should be our next president because that's what I said in the thread title?
conversations flow and adapt and change........

My point has been and continues to be that the author of the article was idiotic. I never once said anything about the lack of personal responsibility shown by those stranded in NO. The author of the article on the other hand made points that were not backed up by either the facts or his own contentions in the article. My logic professor would have flunked him out of hand. The fact that you think the article in question makes the author not only admirable but someone you would want to lead the free world is just plain scary.

[Hornet33]

So it's scarry for a leader of government to believe it's an individuals personal resposnibility to take care of themselves? That's what the author was promoting. For people to take responsiblity for their own protection, safety, and actions and NOT wait for the government to hand everything to them on a silver platter.

What's so scarry about that? Unless your going to be one of those that has all the free stuff taken away from you and then be expected to take care of yourself, it doesn't seem like a bad idea.

I agree with the author. Sink or swim, it's up to the individual and it's no ones fault but their own how they turn out in life.

[ZetaNine]

My point has been and continues to be that the author of the article was idiotic. I never once said anything about the lack of personal responsibility shown by those stranded in NO. The author of the article on the other hand made points that were not backed up by either the facts or his own contentions in the article. My logic professor would have flunked him out of hand. The fact that you think the article in question makes the author not only admirable but someone you would want to lead the free world is just plain scary.

MT...I appreciate your opinions...I really do...and I dig a good debate...  with that said though...several things here have flown over your head....including but not limited to; intent, humor, exaggeration, and irony.

please tell your logic professor that his thinking is flawed....

[midnight Target]

MT...I appreciate your opinions...I really do...and I dig a good debate...  with that said though...several things here have flown over your head....including but not limited to; intent, humor, exaggeration, and irony.

please tell your logic professor that his thinking is flawed....

Really? You say something funny? Oh wait you exaggerated something in a funny way? A funny ironic way? I bet it was good too. Unfortunately I can't find it in this thread. Maybe the mod made it go away?



I'd tell my old prof, but he's probably dead. That was about 30 years ago.

[2bighorn]

Personal accountability.

Blah, that's capitalism. They're just clever to use the system designed by socialist white folks. Blame the enablers not those who pursue happiness, which is their inalienable right, as said in declaration of independence, and enjoy welfare promoted by people of the United States, as written in preamble of our constitution.

[Hornet33]

Blah, that's capitalism. They're just clever to use the system designed by socialist white folks. Blame the enablers not those who pursue happiness, which is their inalienable right, as said in declaration of independence, and enjoy welfare promoted by people of the United States, as written in preamble of our constitution.

Yep your right and that's the problem I have with the whole damn wellfare system. I work hard to earn my money, pay my taxes, and then get to watch a bunch of hoods collect wellfare, live in a government subsidised home, get food stamps, all the benifits I CAN'T get because I "make" too much money, and these ultra melons have a nicer car than I can afford, better cloths, don't have to work, and then complain and tell me I OWE THEM BECAUSE I'M WHITE????????  Then call me a racists if I don't agree with them??????????

And people in the black community wonder why there is STILL a racial undercurrent in this country. God forbid if someone in the black community calls them on it either, then they're just an Uncle Tom.

Blows my mind.