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Re: Unbelievable....
« Reply #105 on: July 16, 2008, 11:32:15 AM »
"A republican is a democrat who just got mugged."
So true. One of my flaming liberal black buddies got all worked up when his house was burglarized. Wanted to know where he could get a shotgun. Of course the NRA was still a bunch of backwoods, inbred trailer-trash in his opinion, but he was in danger, and needed a gun right away. :rofl
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« Reply #106 on: July 16, 2008, 11:33:41 AM »
Which brings us full circle.

The indignance over these crimes was partially based on lies and rumors. Just like in the Duke case. Yet so many in this thread were ready to point a finger and say Blacks are bad! Seeee!!!!!.

Maybe we just need to say crime is bad, gangs are bad, murder is bad...


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« Reply #107 on: July 16, 2008, 11:34:50 AM »
Nothing like locking the barn door after the horses get out huh? But if you lock the barn door before they get out your paranoid that they will get out and that just makes you a crazy person.

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Re: Unbelievable....
« Reply #108 on: July 16, 2008, 11:39:57 AM »
Which brings us full circle.

The indignance over these crimes was partially based on lies and rumors. Just like in the Duke case. Yet so many in this thread were ready to point a finger and say Blacks are bad! Seeee!!!!!.

Maybe we just need to say crime is bad, gangs are bad, murder is bad...



Not quite. See crime is bad, gangs are bad, murder is bad...but how many times can you show us when a gang of white kids has gone into a black neighborhood and broke into a bunch of homes, stolen cars, raped people, and killed them, just for respect?

I'm SURE you can find examples but what's the occurance ratio vs black kids doing the same thing? You KNOW you can't say it's the same ratio.
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Re: Unbelievable....
« Reply #109 on: July 16, 2008, 11:41:45 AM »
Bong:

Insult is the last refuge of the outargued. You have brought nothing to the discussion but the ability to toss names around. The fact is, there is tremendous hatred of Whites amongst the Black underclass, dwarfing any hatred of Blacks held by Whites in modern times. And Whites are the favored "targets of opportunity" for their thugs when available.

Funny you should mention Hispanics and Asians. In some of my business dealings, I've come to know a lot of them, especially convenience store owners, restaurateurs, and motel operators out of Pakistan, Sri Lanka, India, and China. Like I said in the post about France's immigration policy, despite my misgivings about free immigration from regions known to produce terrorists, they are in fact mostly okay. They come to this country, just as different-looking as the Blacks, with even more differences in language, culture, and religion. Then they proceed to do much better than people who have been here 300 years, especially as regards rates of violent crime. And don't try to tell me that the Chinese, or the Jews, or the Hispanics, have experienced less racism than Blacks, they haven't.

The other thing about Hispanics and especially Middle Easterners/Asians is that nearly everyone of them that I know personally dislikes Blacks FAR more than myself or the average White person in general. In the words of a particular Pakistani convenience store owner "Blacks are a cancer on America." HIS words, not mine. Operating where he does, he has plenty of experience. He comes from a country with a totally different racial history than the U.S., yet he has come to this attitude in a few short years. Naturally hateful? Taught to hate Blacks in a country with no history of enslaving them and no discernable Black population? Or weary and disgusted with what he deals with everyday?

 What can the reason be that so many immigrants I know are DESPERATE to save enough money to move into White neighborhoods, even lower-middle class ones? It isn't because they have any more racial/cultural commonalities with Whites than they do with Blacks. Its because even if the White guy across the street views them with suspicion or even dislike, he is still far less likely to steal/vandalize their property, murder them and rape their daughter. Hell, decent BLACKS move out of these neighborhoods if they have the means.

Like I say, it is a huge problem, and blaming it on those who AIN'T doing the murdering, robbing, and the raping
is a position so ridiculous I don't see how it is taken seriously.

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Re: Unbelievable....
« Reply #110 on: July 16, 2008, 11:42:40 AM »
Racist? Maybe, but only because it is an assumption or a lie, not a fact.

http://www.hoover.org/research/factsonpolicy/facts/16615876.html
so...what're the other 2%?
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Re: Unbelievable....
« Reply #111 on: July 16, 2008, 11:43:36 AM »
Too bad the father didn't have a gun in the first place.

the right to carry concealed changes a lot of minds. I carry a .25 caliber semi-auto concealed in a wallet, well it looks like a wallet with one hole for the trigger and one for the barrel.

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« Reply #112 on: July 16, 2008, 11:49:46 AM »
Racist? Maybe, but only because it is an assumption or a lie, not a fact.

http://www.hoover.org/research/factsonpolicy/facts/16615876.html

Again.......And, don't forget, white population 194,552,774 black population 33,947,837 
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Re: Unbelievable....
« Reply #113 on: July 16, 2008, 12:00:44 PM »
Which brings us full circle.

The indignance over these crimes was partially based on lies and rumors. Just like in the Duke case. Yet so many in this thread were ready to point a finger and say Blacks are bad! Seeee!!!!!.

Maybe we just need to say crime is bad, gangs are bad, murder is bad...



you're right....that IS what we need to be saying.

 the problem is that it seems that the majority of these crimes are committed by black men. it also seems that they're getting younger and younger every day.

 in a way, i do feel bad for black people...the honest hard working ones that is. i KNOW there are many many more than we'll ever hear about. the problem is though, that those very hard working respectable people have to live with BS brought on by the ones committing these horrible crimes. and yes, they do commit them much more often than whites do.

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« Reply #114 on: July 16, 2008, 12:14:09 PM »
Right on the money Cap....

You know, these people will call you ignorant, will call you racist...and yet...I know folks like Neil Degrasse Tyson exist, watch him every week on T.V. I don't deny this fact, don't know anyone who does. And no White person, I repeat, NO White person I have ever met would feel unsafe with him as a neighbor. I feel most of them would be glad to have a famous intellectual in their midst.

Yet these same people are in denial about the nature of millions and millions of other Blacks in this country, who are NOT people they would want to live next to. The funny thing is, most of these people DON'T live in bad Black neighborhoods if they don't have to, either. I have a sister, Christian missionary type, will NOT put up with any "racist" statements, yet her husband commutes an hour to work everyday because they moved out of their way so their kids can go to a "good, safe school". IOW, one that isn't full of poor Blacks. She told me that one reason she moved was that my eldest niece, raised to be profoundly anti-racist, was starting to pick up attitudes about Blacks she didn't like. Due to constant abuse from them, of course. So let me get this straight. You are moving them far away from lower-class Blacks so they won't develop any hostility towards lower-class Blacks? Because that would be baaaaaaaaaaad  :rofl

You can criticize "racism" and "prejudice" in a White person if it is the result of ignorance and unfamiliarity. If, on the other hand, it is brought on by direct exposure, it is no longer prejudice, it is "post-judice"...and one must seriously question if it really an unreasonable reaction.



you're right....that IS what we need to be saying.

 the problem is that it seems that the majority of these crimes are committed by black men. it also seems that they're getting younger and younger every day.

 in a way, i do feel bad for black people...the honest hard working ones that is. i KNOW there are many many more than we'll ever hear about. the problem is though, that those very hard working respectable people have to live with BS brought on by the ones committing these horrible crimes. and yes, they do commit them much more often than whites do.



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Re: Unbelievable....
« Reply #115 on: July 16, 2008, 12:19:32 PM »
when is the last time any White person felt uncomforable when a Japanese guy walked past them?

Strange, I don't feel uncomfortable at all when a black person walks by me.  I guess that says a lot about me and quite abit about you as well. 


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Re: Unbelievable....
« Reply #116 on: July 16, 2008, 12:27:58 PM »
Strange, I don't feel uncomfortable at all when a black person walks by me.  I guess that says a lot about me and quite abit about you as well. 


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Ack:
You are good at making an insulting one-liner instead of a rational argument aren't you?

But fair warning, because the subject is something besides flying a P-38 in a video game, you are most likely straying out of your element.

What about this one?

"You know, these people will call you ignorant, will call you racist...and yet...I know folks like Neil Degrasse Tyson exist, watch him every week on T.V. I don't deny this fact, don't know anyone who does. And no White person, I repeat, NO White person I have ever met would feel unsafe with him as a neighbor. I feel most of them would be glad to have a famous intellectual in their midst."

You apologists for Black thuggery will never admit that perhaps Whites have a REASON to be uncomfortable around Blacks in certain circumstances. Nor do you seem to take into account that mainstream White America mostly LOVES a Black person who comports themselves well (Oprah, Obama, Tony Dungy, Bryant Gumble, Bill Cosby, Thomas Sowell and Armstrong Williams for the Limbaugh set), so maybe the problem has nothing to do with some irrational White hatred of a certain skin tone, and every thing to do with crimes that happen everday.

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Re: Unbelievable....
« Reply #117 on: July 16, 2008, 12:39:30 PM »
hhmm... i notice silence from the one that seemed to be defending these scumbags........ :O
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Re: Unbelievable....
« Reply #118 on: July 16, 2008, 12:50:46 PM »
Have you all seen the infamous Pizza Parlor beating ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMIuG3HvV0Y&feature=related


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« Reply #119 on: July 16, 2008, 12:55:58 PM »

You apologists for Black thuggery will never admit that perhaps Whites have a REASON to be uncomfortable around Blacks in certain circumstances. Nor do you seem to take into account that mainstream White America mostly LOVES a Black person who comports themselves well (Oprah, Obama, Tony Dungy, Bryant Gumble, Bill Cosby, Thomas Sowell and Armstrong Williams for the Limbaugh set), so maybe the problem has nothing to do with some irrational White hatred of a certain skin tone, and every thing to do with crimes that happen everday.

Black Tuggery... (or white thuggery for that matter) needs apologists? HAS apologists?

Is the issue less one of race, and more one of lawless projection of power by a tribe of criminals?

... when approached from that angle (picking the turd up from the clean end ;)) installing new bodily fluid drain holes in the criminals becomes less of a 'race' issue and more of a 'self-defense' issue when the deed is accomplished by law abiding citizens equipped with the means to defend themselves.

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