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Offline Nilsen

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Re: No more "Under God" in our pocket change?
« Reply #15 on: July 23, 2008, 02:48:14 AM »
My personal opinion (based on not beeing religious i suppose) is that religion and money should be separated if you know what i mean. So I would remove any reference to religion or spirituality on money.

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Re: No more "Under God" in our pocket change?
« Reply #16 on: July 23, 2008, 03:14:38 AM »
My personal opinion (based on not beeing religious i suppose) is that religion and money should be separated if you know what i mean. So I would remove any reference to religion or spirituality on money.

Except it's not your money so you don't get a say in it.  :devil


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Re: No more "Under God" in our pocket change?
« Reply #17 on: July 23, 2008, 03:26:55 AM »
I actually have 14 of them capitalist dollars in hard cash! Its in one dollar notes and was bought as an investment 10 years ago. Its my nest egg  :aok


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Re: No more "Under God" in our pocket change?
« Reply #18 on: July 23, 2008, 03:45:01 AM »
I actually have 14 of them capitalist dollars in hard cash! Its in one dollar notes and was bought as an investment 10 years ago. Its my nest egg  :aok


Well your nest egg is shrinking fast, maybe thats why they're not trusting god on their currency anymore :D

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Re: No more "Under God" in our pocket change?
« Reply #19 on: July 23, 2008, 03:51:45 AM »
I actually have 14 of them capitalist dollars in hard cash! Its in one dollar notes and was bought as an investment 10 years ago. Its my nest egg  :aok


Nils, you would be better off investing in pre-1964 U.S. coins. At least they were made with silver.
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Re: No more "Under God" in our pocket change?
« Reply #20 on: July 23, 2008, 04:08:31 AM »
Nils, you would be better off investing in pre-1964 U.S. coins. At least they were made with silver.

nonono.. i have faith in my 14 dollars! I think they cost me around 10 norwegian capitalist dollars each when i bought them, and now they are worth 5,5 norwegian capitalist dollars each. Can really only go up from here  :cool:

Seriously.. I got them from my mom after she went to florida some years back and the value has dropped by about 50% vs the norwegian oil rubel.

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Re: No more "Under God" in our pocket change?
« Reply #21 on: July 23, 2008, 04:36:48 AM »
God isn't doing too well in the money business.

The Dow is lower than it was in 2000, but inflation has been almost 47% since then.

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Re: No more "Under God" in our pocket change?
« Reply #22 on: July 23, 2008, 04:41:46 AM »
As far as "Under God" being in the pledge of allegiance I do think it should be removed, it's not going to hurt anyone to have it taken out.  Take me, when I was in school I never liked saying the pledge just because of that phrase as I was atheist, removing the phrase would just solve the problem, just because a majority don't mind it being in it does that mean we just say screw the minority.  I mean I don't care about it enough that I'm gonna go out and do anything about it, I just see the side of having it taken out.

Yes, but I dont see how the minority of people who want it taken out get their way. If you didn't like saying it without the under god, dont, or dont say it at all.
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Re: No more "Under God" in our pocket change?
« Reply #23 on: July 23, 2008, 06:52:26 AM »
The fact that it was added later, contradicting the separation of church and state?

Certainly.

But, again, it's not that big a deal IMO and most people get way too worked up about it.

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Re: No more "Under God" in our pocket change?
« Reply #24 on: July 23, 2008, 07:35:36 AM »
I was walking down the street and I overheard these 2 guys talking about somebody who heard that the liberals were gonna pass a law that made us all do stuff that is by gawd unamerican! Lousey liberals and their godless ways!

What do you guys think?

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Re: No more "Under God" in our pocket change?
« Reply #25 on: July 23, 2008, 07:48:20 AM »
god is mentioned a number of times by the founders.   to simply have god in the money and the pledge is not in the least a violation of seperatation of church and state.

God is not a church.   The government recognizing god does not mean it has established a church.   If you are serious about wanting to know what it means you need to look at the founders and the church of england.   They did not want a "church of America"   god is not a church.   God can be whatever you want him to be.. you athiests can make yourself your god if you like.

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Re: No more "Under God" in our pocket change?
« Reply #26 on: July 23, 2008, 07:56:23 AM »
I beg to differ Lazs, by putting the name of "God" on or in your official documentation you are predisposing your country to a specific band of religious orientation.
By popular definition "God" is the Judeo-Christian god NOT "Allah" NOT "Buddha" and NOT any of the many Hindu, Norse, ancient Greek, Roman or Pagan gods. It is also by definition most definitely NOT a substitute for agnostic or atheist traditions.
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Re: No more "Under God" in our pocket change?
« Reply #27 on: July 23, 2008, 08:04:35 AM »
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Re: No more "Under God" in our pocket change?
« Reply #28 on: July 23, 2008, 08:06:17 AM »
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Re: No more "Under God" in our pocket change?
« Reply #29 on: July 23, 2008, 08:11:26 AM »
SD.. sorry but that is not the case.. the problem as the founders (our founders) seen it was the formation of a church run by the state..  such as the church of england.   Having a god is not a church.

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