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Stall fighting pullout
« on: July 30, 2008, 08:30:22 PM »
  What is the best maneuver at the top of a stall fight? Is it better to left/right rudder and spin around? Or just pull hard on the stick and make a U? These are the planes that I use to stall fight.

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Re: Stall fighting pullout
« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2008, 08:39:18 PM »
I like to drop a notch or two of flaps and come over on my back, raising my flaps again as soon as my nose is coming back down.  That works quickest/easiest for me (in the F4U).
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Re: Stall fighting pullout
« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2008, 09:45:38 PM »
What exactly do you mean by 'top of the stall fight'?


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Re: Stall fighting pullout
« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2008, 10:23:21 PM »
You really shouldn't be stallfighting in a 51, or a Yak we dont even have, for that matter.

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Re: Stall fighting pullout
« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2008, 11:49:05 PM »
When I need to do a reversal in my B-25H, and I don't have enough E (energy) for an Immelman, I go up about half-way, then use full rudder, full opposite aileron and pull all the way back on the stick.  That gets me doing something like a hammerhead (I think).

I'm still working on when to use the flaps (in any plane).

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EDIT:  I do the above manoeuvre when my plane is completely stalled, or just won't really go up much further.
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Re: Stall fighting pullout
« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2008, 12:23:32 AM »
Yak. As it starts to stall, smoothly reduce the throttle to let the nose drop down to the left and control nose direction with small amount of rudder to keep it nice and straight while gently bringing the power back on.

Never try hold the stall at the top for too long and always let the torque do the work with for you.


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Re: Stall fighting pullout
« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2008, 03:53:26 AM »
That depends on your skill level there are some more difficult manouvers to pull at the top, for example with the 109(g14 and k4) there is the "flip trick" manover, at the top (guessing the con is below you) you pull up chop throttle rudder left 2 notches flaps full throttle with wep. All of this must be preformed in very little time, and youll flip over so quickly the con will see you head to head before he stalls.
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Re: Stall fighting pullout
« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2008, 12:48:00 PM »
P 38 prety easy in a stall fight
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Re: Stall fighting pullout
« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2008, 04:47:20 PM »
P 38 prety easy in a stall fight

Do you mean it's easy to fight it or easy to fly it, because neither is true.

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Re: Stall fighting pullout
« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2008, 04:56:22 PM »
The 38 is easy to put in a controlled stall.
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Re: Stall fighting pullout
« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2008, 05:13:36 PM »
The 38 is easy to put in a controlled stall.

You must be SAPPer.
To me, it has nasty stall characteristics, hence I can hardly control its stall. Snap rolls are difficult too. The only time I can control the stall is on the top reversals.

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Re: Stall fighting pullout
« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2008, 05:20:43 PM »
I like to drop a notch or two of flaps and come over on my back, raising my flaps again as soon as my nose is coming back down.  That works quickest/easiest for me (in the F4U).


I am having trouble picturing this.... What do the flaps do for you if you are upside down..

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Re: Stall fighting pullout
« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2008, 05:31:30 PM »
yea with the duel tail and engine i find it easy to kick the rudder right at the top of the stall and she goes over like a old man easing himself in a warm bath.
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Re: Stall fighting pullout
« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2008, 05:39:02 PM »
I am having trouble picturing this.... What do the flaps do for you if you are upside down..

What happens when you drop flaps in level flight?

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Re: Stall fighting pullout
« Reply #14 on: July 31, 2008, 05:58:13 PM »
P 38 prety easy in a stall fight

P-38 stalls?


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