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Re: JUST HOW MUCH MORE 'CHANGE' DO YA THINK YOU CAN STAND?
« Reply #60 on: August 02, 2008, 11:11:31 AM »
Meitla  :aok

I'M STILL WAITING TO SEE IF ANY OF US DID WELL WITH THE DIFFERENT LANGUAGES FOR HIM :D
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Re: JUST HOW MUCH MORE 'CHANGE' DO YA THINK YOU CAN STAND?
« Reply #61 on: August 02, 2008, 12:32:16 PM »
Does anyone else notice that the Obama mantra of "change" tells us very little, and that defenders of that empty suit will rally to his side lacking their own ability to explain exactly how he will make anything better?

Nobody, even the most blind moonbat can tell us that he has the experience to lead a large nation.  Nobody can deny his limited history is absolutely one of the most liberal non-inspiring histories of anyone ever to seek such a high office.

In the last 6 months, his flip-flopping on issues has been extremely evident, with the 2nd amendment as a prime example.

Honestly, I can see NO reason why I or anyone else should vote for this empty suit.

I believe that is exactly what his charm has been so far, though. He doesn't SEEM like a career politician; He's young, and expresses new ideas. McCain? He's exactly one of those old, In-it-for-myself-and-not-you-the-American-people kinda sweetheartbag's that everyone's tired of. Hell, He doesn't have a platform that changes' anything from the current president, and people definetely want something better than Bush. IMHO, McCain would do better if he changed up a little himself.

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Re: JUST HOW MUCH MORE 'CHANGE' DO YA THINK YOU CAN STAND?
« Reply #62 on: August 02, 2008, 12:49:31 PM »
It would be C with a thicker mix of B in it. Too many people play party politics, and the career politician's play up on that.


Ditto B & C.

Both sides do it too. Just some insight though. Several studies have found that Democrats are less educated than Republicants. I remember when word got out by talk radio that congress was trying to give amnesty to the illegals the Men and women of congress phones started ringing off the hook. Then one congressman, a republican, got angry because the people found out about it. The moral of the story is that Congress does not want you to know what they are doing until afterward.

You now we can vote these people out! I'm willing to get rid of Lugar and that moron Carter here in Indiana.

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Re: JUST HOW MUCH MORE 'CHANGE' DO YA THINK YOU CAN STAND?
« Reply #63 on: August 02, 2008, 12:52:09 PM »
Frode, your view of McCain aside, do you really think that American voters want a black radical leftist for president?  Just look at Obama's actual documented voting history and associations.  

The actual walk - not the talk - is the tale of the tape for politicians.  

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Re: JUST HOW MUCH MORE 'CHANGE' DO YA THINK YOU CAN STAND?
« Reply #64 on: August 02, 2008, 01:11:43 PM »
Ditto B & C.

Both sides do it too. Just some insight though. Several studies have found that Democrats are less educated than Republicants. I remember when word got out by talk radio that congress was trying to give amnesty to the illegals the Men and women of congress phones started ringing off the hook. Then one congressman, a republican, got angry because the people found out about it. The moral of the story is that Congress does not want you to know what they are doing until afterward.

You now we can vote these people out! I'm willing to get rid of Lugar and that moron Carter here in Indiana.

true, we can vote them out. but the problem again, is that what wqe get in their place may well be soo bad that we wish we had the first amazinhunks back.

but then, these guys are most likely apoinhted.....the voting process is just an illusion anymore.... :noid
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Re: JUST HOW MUCH MORE 'CHANGE' DO YA THINK YOU CAN STAND?
« Reply #65 on: August 02, 2008, 01:16:26 PM »

but..i don't know what the parenthesis are for though......

 it means that 1s go to infinity. In other words there isn't a decimal form that can express 05/4.5

The answer is

     05/4.5

whoever takes it, can approximate it to whatever degree of accuracy they want

11
  or

11.1
 or

11.11

or

11.11111111111111



it's all 1s until you hit the turtle



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Re: JUST HOW MUCH MORE 'CHANGE' DO YA THINK YOU CAN STAND?
« Reply #66 on: August 02, 2008, 01:38:53 PM »
when Mr. Obama has those little campaign posters that say "Change" you can believe in. all that means is he will contiue to change is mind about issues. notice how he was against off-shore oil drilling in the gulf coast. Well now he is all for it. Who knows what will happen in the future.
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Re: JUST HOW MUCH MORE 'CHANGE' DO YA THINK YOU CAN STAND?
« Reply #67 on: August 02, 2008, 01:42:35 PM »
Frode, your view of McCain aside, do you really think that American voters want a black radical leftist for president?  Just look at Obama's actual documented voting history and associations.  

The actual walk - not the talk - is the tale of the tape for politicians.  



To tell the truth, IMHO it depends' on how many of the Voting populace see him as-Either the Black, radical leftist, or as someone who's not gonna keep going the same way the current administrations' going. Right now, people see the mortgage crisis, energy prices, increasing job losses, inflation of the dollar, And no plan to fix these things. The War on terror? What's that, the occupation of Iraq? People are tired of that, too. All they see of that is the huge tax burden it incurs. People are getting hit in the wallet, and to them, that's all that matters to them, they want to see some relief. When McCain keeps' parroting basically the same things' that Bush is, and Obama's talking economic and energy reform, they're listening to Obama because that's what they want. McCain would be wise to split with bush, and start harping up a plan to get the economy back to where it was in the year 2000.

Myself...I don't foresee either of those candidate's coming up with any kind of economic plan that would fix all of our domestic problems in 4 years, or even 8. Not without some really draconian moves on the gov't's. part. Stimulus packages' are nice little windfalls, but not what this country needs. It needs' it's factories back. It needs' it's outsourced jobs back. It needs' it's base manufacturing economy on american soil paying wages to american consumers, so that they can spend their money in an american economy. And neither of those candidates' has come out and said that.
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Re: JUST HOW MUCH MORE 'CHANGE' DO YA THINK YOU CAN STAND?
« Reply #68 on: August 02, 2008, 01:47:39 PM »
true, we can vote them out. but the problem again, is that what wqe get in their place may well be soo bad that we wish we had the first amazinhunks back.




ooooo, now THIS is funny!!!!!!!! i type in the typical work for anal oriface, and amazinhunks comes out on the boards??????? :rofl :lol :O :rofl :rofl
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Re: JUST HOW MUCH MORE 'CHANGE' DO YA THINK YOU CAN STAND?
« Reply #69 on: August 02, 2008, 01:58:22 PM »
obama is not "all for drilling", he is for "reasonable drilling", just like he is for reasonable gun laws.

obama is playing the polls, his advisers have told him that most americans want drilling so he must pretend to want drilling to get the votes.

what is obama's position?  let me check the polls.


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Re: JUST HOW MUCH MORE 'CHANGE' DO YA THINK YOU CAN STAND?
« Reply #70 on: August 02, 2008, 02:04:11 PM »
is Obama really a person?

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Re: JUST HOW MUCH MORE 'CHANGE' DO YA THINK YOU CAN STAND?
« Reply #71 on: August 02, 2008, 02:04:59 PM »
obama is not "all for drilling", he is for "reasonable drilling", just like he is for reasonable gun laws.

obama is playing the polls, his advisers have told him that most americans want drilling so he must pretend to want drilling to get the votes.

what is obama's position?  let me check the polls.



define reasonable?
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Re: JUST HOW MUCH MORE 'CHANGE' DO YA THINK YOU CAN STAND?
« Reply #72 on: August 02, 2008, 02:10:18 PM »
define reasonable?

"reasonable" gives you lots of wiggle room to change your mind, IE, "i did not mean what i said when i said something else".

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Re: JUST HOW MUCH MORE 'CHANGE' DO YA THINK YOU CAN STAND?
« Reply #73 on: August 02, 2008, 02:24:42 PM »
insert tangent here:

"Hey guys - let vote to adjourn this congress and have some vacation! We wouldn't want to actually work to figure out this energy problem..."

"If we go on vacation, it'll buy 5 more weeks of nothing getting done so we can blame Bush/McCain and we can sell Barrack' plan to the masses"

"here, here!"


http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2008/roll566.xml

Gotta love "Change" and "The New Direction Congress".... :rolleyes:
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Re: JUST HOW MUCH MORE 'CHANGE' DO YA THINK YOU CAN STAND?
« Reply #74 on: August 02, 2008, 02:24:48 PM »
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To tell the truth, IMHO it depends' on how many of the Voting populace see him as-Either the Black, radical leftist, or as someone who's not gonna keep going the same way the current administrations' going. Right now, people see the mortgage crisis, energy prices, increasing job losses, inflation of the dollar, And no plan to fix these things. The War on terror? What's that, the occupation of Iraq? People are tired of that, too. All they see of that is the huge tax burden it incurs. People are getting hit in the wallet, and to them, that's all that matters to them, they want to see some relief. When McCain keeps' parroting basically the same things' that Bush is, and Obama's talking economic and energy reform, they're listening to Obama because that's what they want. McCain would be wise to split with bush, and start harping up a plan to get the economy back to where it was in the year 2000.

Myself...I don't foresee either of those candidate's coming up with any kind of economic plan that would fix all of our domestic problems in 4 years, or even 8. Not without some really draconian moves on the gov't's. part. Stimulus packages' are nice little windfalls, but not what this country needs. It needs' it's factories back. It needs' it's outsourced jobs back. It needs' it's base manufacturing economy on american soil paying wages to american consumers, so that they can spend their money in an american economy. And neither of those candidates' has come out and said that.


Unfortunatley, some people will vote for Obama regardless of the issues - just to see a black brother get over - much like the many blacks who supported the OJ Simpson verdict.  Some will vote for Obama out of black guilt, like the hollywood elite.  Some will vote for Obama out of pure hate for the evil Booosh.  

Some will give their automatic vote because they have been trained to vote themselves money, welfare programs and government legislation like affirmative action and reparations and pure wastes of time, like the "midight basketball" program - a fiasco of the Clinton administration, and the nearly catastrophic national healthcare plotted by Hilary during that same democratic administration.

Some who are not sure exactly sure what ideology moves Obama, or what his real positions are, will vote Obama to get change for change's sake, in the hopes that he will solve their problems in a way that will be good for the country.  

I hope that people give a little more thought and research to their choice for the leader of our country, even if it amounts to a vote that is more against one, than a vote for the other.  

 
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