Waffen SS Squad?

[saantana]

Does anyone else find the squad 'Waffen SS' offending?

The Waffen-SS was a group of combat units composed of volunteer troops with particularly strong personal commitments to Nazi ideology and selected on a racial basis, so that people such as Jews or Poles were not allowed within the organisation.

Many Waffen-SS members were responsible for war crimes, and the Schutzstaffel organisation as a whole was held a criminal organization after the war by the post-war German government because there was undeniable evidence that many of its members perpetrated serious war crimes. Although some argue that the evidence in the cases of many Waffen-SS divisions is of individual rather than organisational culpability, this is unacceptable as a defence in a military unit

    * Wormhoudt massacre by SS Leibstandarte Adolf Hitler, 1940, Belgium
    * Le Paradis massacre by SS Totenkopf, 1940, France
    * Oradour-sur-Glane massacre by SS Das Reich, 1944, France
    * Tulle massacre by SS Das Reich, 1944, France
    * Marzabotto massacre by Reichsführer-SS, 1944, Italy
    * Malmedy massacre by Kampfgruppe Peiper part of 1st SS Panzer Division, 1944, Belgium
    * Ardeatine massacre by two SS Officers, 1944, Italy
    * Distomo massacre by 4th SS Polizei Panzergrenadier Division, 1944, Greece
    * Sant'Anna di Stazzema massacre SS Reichsführer SS, 1944, Italy
    * Ardenne Abbey massacre 12th SS Panzer Division, 1944, France

Note: this is not a complete list of massacres perpetrated by the Waffen SS. There were many other incidents.

[evenhaim]

I let you guess as to my opinion...

[saantana]

I let you guess as to my opinion...

I'm sure ours are pretty similar on this one

[evenhaim]

I'm sure ours are pretty similar on this one

yep

[Ack-Ack]

If you are concerned about a squadron's name, take a screenshot of the name off the roster and email it to HTC for them to review and make the final judgement.


ack-ack

[Furball]

I have a book called Loyalty is my Honor - it is all personal accounts by soldiers of the Waffen SS.  Some groups did commit atrocities, but the majority were just awesome combat troops.  It is a shame for the majority who did fight properly that the name has been tainted because they really were very good.


Would recommend this book to anyone: http://www.amazon.com/Loyalty-My-Honor-Gordon-Williamson/dp/0760300127

I do not personally find it offensive, but can understand others would.

[saantana]

If you are concerned about a squadron's name, take a screenshot of the name off the roster and email it to HTC for them to review and make the final judgement.


ack-ack

I guess you are referring to the method I have chosen to post this on the forums.
I was going to do what you suggested after I got some replies, and I posted a question of the form 'does anyone else find it offending' to make sure it isn't just myself.
If it isn't, then it might serve as a reference for any future CO's wishing to name their squad in a similar manner.

Edit: Sorry Furball you posted just before I hit submit.
To answer your post I myself do not find offensive squad names such as any of the JG units or others as such. Waffen SS is quite different however in my opinion. It almost looks like a provocation

[Shane]

If it's an in-game squadron name, you can bet it'll be gone/changed shortly...

[saantana]

If it's an in-game squadron name, you can bet it'll be gone/changed shortly...

Check the squadron listing

[DaveJ]

Ditto what Furball said.

[Shane]

Check the squadron listing

by "shortly" I meant, "give it a day or 2."

<mutters about Gen ADHD>

[saantana]

Ok, I'll bite.

Some groups did commit atrocities, but the majority were just awesome combat troops.

Could you not say that about jihadists in Iraq shooting at [edit]coalition[/edit] troops?
Now, before anyone starts flaming me, that not being my true personal opinion keep in mind.

Edit: I guess I see your point. I still do not however think such a squadron name is ok, just like a squadron named jihad would not be either.

[Furball]

I don't really see how they are related?

Read the book, read first hand accounts, and then give me your opinion.

[zoozoo]

O club?

[saantana]

I don't really see how they are related?

Read the book, read first hand accounts, and then give me your opinion.

I'll bite again.
I live in a city now where SS troops went from house to house, dragged women, children and men alike and executed them on the streets in the thousands. I do not need to read reference books to form my opinion on those 'awsome' combat troops.
Infact, I'm sure some were pretty decent. However they did believe in an ideology which I do not feel you will protect, and thus regardless whether they were skilled in combat, they should not be honored.

Edit:
But then again that is just my opinion and you are entirely entitled to having yours. I'll email htc and see what they have to say, thank you for your comments everyone.