Waffen SS Squad?

[IronDog]

Waffen SS is just too provoking to be allowed in the game.I actually had a chance to meet two former SS soldiers in my life.My cousin married a lad whose father was in the SS.He seemed pleasant enough,and thats about all I can recall about him.The other SS experience wasn't pleasant at all.A former Estonian SS soldier,flipped out and was running people off the road,during a high speed pursuit.I was in law enforcement at that time,and as it turned out,we managed to get him stopped,and in the insuing fight,he was shot in the back.I was told by the deputies that had to guard him while he was in the hospital,that he was a real extrahunk,and he constantly praised the Reich,SS and Hitler.
IronDog

[Rich46yo]

And what did you learn about those two men, Dietrich and Eicke?

I don't want some web link.  What did YOU learn?

You keep bouncing around but never answering.

I cant stand it when people dance around with somthing to say and then pretend they dont want to say it cause they are so smart, and the other guy should have to figure out what they have to say.

Especially those that think I said somthing I never said. And I never said I admired the SS, nor did I ever say the name should be included in the game. All I did was recite actual history. Regarding the final solution, had anyone actually read my posts, the only thing I said was , "were it up to me we would have hanged every German involved".

But when I do it I say directly what I mean and dont ask people "what did you learn" without first saying what I meant.

[Bronk]

I cant stand it when people dance around with somthing to say and then pretend they dont want to say it cause they are so smart, and the other guy should have to figure out what they have to say.

pot kettle

[Rich46yo]

pot kettle

Ankle humping poochie. 

[Hazzer]

 The Waffen SS were National Socialists first and Soldiers second.Being good at your job does not ennoble you.

 National socialist politics was in their blood-literally!If they didn't always commit atrocities,that's because they were not always fighting non-Aryans.
 
 I personally think the idea Abhorrent.
 
 If you had lost relatives to these people,your views may be different.

 Anyway what do I know.

[Bronk]

Ankle humping poochie. 

Don't you have a toolshed to to try and beat? I know it's a stretch for you but i think you can do it.

[Rich46yo]

Don't you have a toolshed to to try and beat? I know it's a stretch for you but i think you can do it.

Do you ever actually add to a thread or do you only hump ankles?

This last hump I'd have to speak Chinese to understand. Boy I sure wish AH would activate forum ignore again.

At least for the ankle humpers. You know?

[Bronk]

I cant stand it when people dance around with somthing to say and then pretend they dont want to say it cause they are so smart, and the

See this is another of rich's  bag of 1337 trick. Claim they are doing what he is doing. 
Rich your like a Pavlov dog.
 I ring the bell and you drool.  Get a napkin you've embarrassing yourself.

[Simaril]

An aside...about "ankle humping." I don't think that word means what you think it means!

Dogs ankle hump humans they like, but as a dominance behavior. Around here people use the phrase they way WC Fields used "Go away kid, you bother me." Around here its mostly used to describe those who oppose you and butt into your conversation, although sometimes folks come close to the actual meaning when they describe fanboys jumping in where they're not wanted.

In short, Rich, there are absolutely NO ankle humpers involved in this conversation.

[BlauK]

The Waffen SS were National Socialists first and Soldiers second.
 Anyway what do I know.

When you know that you don't know, why don't you read or even google a bit before you make such ignorant claims

I repeat... many Waffen-SS men were not nazies! Do not generalize.

[Hazzer]

 The waffen SS was fundamentally a Nazi organization.That organization subscribed to Nazi ideology.I repeat abhorrent,like national Socialism itself.

 I doubt HTC would risk the controversy of such a Squad in Aces high.that I do know.
 
 

[Hazzer]

 My point is,the fact that many later recruits of the waffen SS were not Nazis does not change the colour of the organization itself.

By the way,I do not need to google about the Nazis or the Waffen SS my father fought in WWII,and had the unpleasnt honour of   participating in the liberation of Bergan Belson.Until 1946 he had a job Photographing German Prisoners of war,many of them high ranking Genrals,both Wehrmacht and Waffen SS.

 He also met Soviet troops in 1945 - I have a picture of him with them somewhere -and their feelings for the waffen SS were very clear.

[Guppy35]

I cant stand it when people dance around with somthing to say and then pretend they dont want to say it cause they are so smart, and the other guy should have to figure out what they have to say.

Especially those that think I said somthing I never said. And I never said I admired the SS, nor did I ever say the name should be included in the game. All I did was recite actual history. Regarding the final solution, had anyone actually read my posts, the only thing I said was , "were it up to me we would have hanged every German involved".

But when I do it I say directly what I mean and dont ask people "what did you learn" without first saying what I meant.

OK rich, let me dumb it down for you.   The question was whether a Waffen SS name was appropriate for AH.  I said no because of what the Waffen SS was during WW2, Hitler's private army lead by men who were fanatically devoted to Hitler both in ideology and their fanaticism.  This was instilled in their Waffen SS units which were organized seperately, did not operate under normal German military law, and were renowned for their atrocities in whatever theater of the war they fought in. 

Does it make every SS man a war criminal?  No.  Does it make them just ordinary soldiers like the Whermacht?  No.  My suggestion for you to research the histoy of Sepp Deitrich and Theodore Eicke was because they were the Division Commanders of the First two SS Combat divisions.  They set the tone, and their history is full of murder, concentration camp attrocities, racial superiority etc. 

Again anything representing that in a flight sim is inappropriate to me.

If that's not clear enough for you, I don't know what else to tell you.   Frankly I'm tired of trying to explain it to you as clearly you don't get it.

In that regards I'm done with it.  In the end it's HTC's decision anyway.

[Xargos]

I'm no longer seeing a squad by that name in the squad listings.  Either it's C/O decided to change it on his own or HTC sent him an e-mail.

[evenhaim]

Arguing is moot actions have been taken by htc apperntly, let it die please.