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Re: why is weed illigal???
« Reply #165 on: August 06, 2008, 10:35:37 AM »
Not to throw a wet blanket, but it sounds like some here obsess about marijuana.  If you can't relax or enjoy things without it - you need to do some self-examination.

also - I'm told that heavy daily usage makes males grow teats.  If that is true, some of you guys sound like you've got some pendulous, swinging jugs.

Not to drop a hot potato down your pants, but its sounds like your generalizing and stereotyping.  If you can't find things to do besides that - you need to do some self-examination.

-see what I did there?-

also - Don't believe everything your told.  It just shows your ignorance.
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Re: why is weed illigal???
« Reply #166 on: August 06, 2008, 11:13:00 AM »
Not to throw a wet blanket, but it sounds like some here obsess about marijuana.  If you can't relax or enjoy things without it - you need to do some self-examination.

also - I'm told that heavy daily usage makes males grow teats.  If that is true, some of you guys sound like you've got some pendulous, swinging jugs.

I really should not be posting again as I have attracted some undesirable attention, but I feel this is an important point to mention.

There is absolutely no evidence whatsoever to support that marijuana is in any way physically addictive. There is nothing chemically about THC that blocks neuroreceptors it affects from being equally receptive to chemicals produced by the brain itself after the period of intoxication. This is unlike nicotine, caffeine or alcohol, which are in fact, extremely physically addictive for that very reason. With marijuana there are no clinically recognizable symptoms of hangover, "crashing", withdrawal, or  PHYSICAL dependence. However, anything that a person finds pleasurable can be psychologically habit forming, especially if endorphins, natural opiates or adrenalin are involved (IE:sex, gambling, roller coasters, skydiving, sports, bungee jumping, etc, etc.). So, while marijuana does not replace any natural component of brain chemistry and produce symptoms of physical addiction or dependence, the possibility of psychological addiction is very real. The likelihood and degree of psychological dependence on marijuana is very unique to the individual's personality. Some people simply have addictive personalities, some do not. The same person that develops psychological dependance on marijuana for a sense of well-being is just as likely to be addicted to something like sexual intimacy for the same reason.
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Re: why is weed illigal???
« Reply #167 on: August 06, 2008, 11:22:02 AM »
Yeah I mean I'm not addictted to it, I just like what it does to me. I'm just a jumpy person, so weed kinda calms me down a little. As far as zazen says it seems like weed is harmless, which is fine with me.

people have it in there brain that weed is a totally bad thing. well what about Tylenol or any of those drugs, it helps you when you have a headache, weed just helps me settle down. same difference.

plus weed is a plant, tylenol is manufacutured so which do you trust???
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Re: why is weed illigal???
« Reply #168 on: August 06, 2008, 11:38:51 AM »
plus weed is a plant, tylenol is manufacutured so which do you trust???

Hmmmm... that would depend on where you get your pot from. Last I checked, there are no health department investigations at your average grow site, nor inspections of the shipping & receiving facilities.

Plenty of good arguments to make for pot. That's not one of them.

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« Reply #169 on: August 06, 2008, 11:39:52 AM »

people have it in there brain that weed is a totally bad thing. well what about Tylenol or any of those drugs, it helps you when you have a headache, weed just helps me settle down. same difference.

plus weed is a plant, tylenol is manufacutured so which do you trust???

Actually, Tylenol in quantity is extremely toxic, it can cause severe liver damage and death with as little as 5 times the recommended dosage (depending on weight, metabolism, liver function and age). It is impossible to overdose on marijuana. While it does have properties of a barbiturate, it does not significantly suppress the respiratory, nervous or circulatory systems or impact the liver even when taken in huge quantity per unit time. There is not one case in the history of humankind of anyone dying directly from marijuana intoxication alone (although if you smoked it in same quantity some smoke cigarettes lung cancer could result). Alcohol and Nicotine, on the other hand, have claimed more lives than all of the wars throughout human history.

That being said, do not automatically assume plants are less harmful than man-made substances. There's some plants, especially certain mushrooms that contain psychoactive substances, that will kill you dead as a doornail, even in very small quantity. The benefit of plants over chemicals is the composition of plants is known if not artificially manipulated. There's no telling how much Drano the the meth-lab puts in their product. But, don't think for a second that marijuana is perfectly "safe" because it's a plant. I've tested marijuana that has been chemically treated with all sorts of things, such as formaldehyde (cigarettes can have this too), cocaine, methamphetamine, ethyl or methyl alcohol, and even fruit juice as the crystallized sugar makes it look and smell more potent. So, be careful and don't assume all marijuana is "just" marijuana because it's a plant.
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Re: why is weed illigal???
« Reply #170 on: August 06, 2008, 11:59:12 AM »
But, don't think for a second that marijuana is perfectly "safe" because it's a plant. I've tested marijuana that has been chemically treated with all sorts of things, such as formaldehyde (cigarettes can have this too), cocaine, methamphetamine, ethyl or methyl alcohol, and even fruit juice as the crystallized sugar makes it look and smell more potent. So, be careful and don't assume all marijuana is "just" marijuana because it's a plant.

An interesting thing to remember is that many dealers will go out of their way to tell you what the marijuana is laced with, and then charge you extra for it :)
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« Reply #171 on: August 06, 2008, 12:03:25 PM »
An interesting thing to remember is that many dealers will go out of their way to tell you what the marijuana is laced with, and then charge you extra for it :)

Hahahahhaha...n00bs.
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« Reply #172 on: August 06, 2008, 12:09:17 PM »
Hahahahhaha...n00bs.

 ;)

It goes back to what I said earlier about how I'd like to be able to walk into a store, read the label, and actually know what I'm getting, as opposed to running into 20 people that all have "Purple Haze"  :rolleyes:

But, you can certainly find honest dealers and honest product if you know where to look.
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« Reply #173 on: August 06, 2008, 12:10:40 PM »
Agreed.  Have you been to Holland yet?  It is what you've been looking for.
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« Reply #174 on: August 06, 2008, 12:17:57 PM »
Exaclty I want to know how holland deals with taxation and stuff like that. How do they hold up selling it in stores and restaurants??
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Re: why is weed illigal???
« Reply #175 on: August 06, 2008, 12:22:04 PM »
An interesting thing to remember is that many dealers will go out of their way to tell you what the marijuana is laced with, and then charge you extra for it :)

More often than not, "lacing" is done to artificially compensate for low THC content. No self-respecting hobbyist would "lace" his product. If it was that poor quality that it couldn't stand on its own merits he would use it as mulch instead.
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Re: why is weed illigal???
« Reply #176 on: August 06, 2008, 12:32:00 PM »
More often than not, "lacing" is done to artificially compensate for low THC content. No self-respecting hobbyist would "lace" his product. If it was that poor quality that it couldn't stand on its own merits he would use it as mulch instead.

Well, I think the mindset for lacing it with cocaine is a bit different than what you described :D

But, yeah, I wouldn't waste good stand-alone product (expensive as is) in a lacing experiment.
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Re: why is weed illigal???
« Reply #177 on: August 06, 2008, 12:43:19 PM »
Exaclty I want to know how holland deals with taxation and stuff like that. How do they hold up selling it in stores and restaurants??

It isn't in just every store and restaurant.  The are called coffeshops.  They usually do sell coffee too, heehee.







You'll want to look for the rectangular window sticker that is cut diagonally, half white half green.  Prices are better than what you'd expect to pay for 'heads' here in the states.  Just make your way past all the shops that are close to the main train station.  The prices there are inflated beyond what you will usually find.

I highly recommend the Grey Area, Abraxas, Baba, and Mellow Yellow was fun to stop in on the way to the Van Gogh Museum.

Don't risk the street dealers, they will probably just try to mug you.  You will find all the bud and shrooms you'd like in the coffeeshops.

Here is a map:

http://www.coffeeshop.freeuk.com/Map.html

You can see where I rented an apartment from a friend with a small group for a great price on that map.  We were on the edge of the Red Light District which I wasn't too excited about since my girl went with me and most of the women in the windows are kinda creepy.  We were facing the Old Church on Warmoesstraat.

When the dollar isn't worth crap again I will go back, feel free to join in!
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« Reply #178 on: August 06, 2008, 01:47:08 PM »
so do these businesses make good money???
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Re: why is weed illigal???
« Reply #179 on: August 06, 2008, 01:48:57 PM »
do they give free breast exams at those places bongboy?
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