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Re: South Osetia under attack
« Reply #630 on: August 13, 2008, 03:02:29 PM »
It;s our own business, no one should "advise" Russia on a question of citizenship.

So, you feel you are entitled to go into any sovereign nation, hand a portion of the population passports, claim them as citizens, and then invade that sovereign nation on their behalf?
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Re: South Osetia under attack
« Reply #631 on: August 13, 2008, 03:03:19 PM »
Remember how you guys annexed Texas from above mentioned Mexico?

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    Main articles: Texas Revolution, Republic of Texas, and Texas Annexation

The Convention of 1832 and the Convention of 1833 were responses to rising unrest at policies of the Mexican government. Delegates feared the end of duty-free imports from the United States and the threat of ending slavery.[38] In 1835, Antonio López de Santa Anna, President of Mexico, created a unified constitution for Mexico which created a centralized government with power concentrated in the President, and turned states into provinces with governors appointed from Mexico City.[38] States around Mexico rebelled against this imposition, including Chihuahua, Zacatecas and Yucatan. Of note was the Centralista forces' brutal suppression of dissidents in Zacatecas.[39] Texans also resented policies such as the forcible disarmament of settlers, and the expulsion of immigrants and legal landowners originally from the United States.
Republic of Texas. The present-day outlines of the U.S. states are superimposed on the boundaries of 1836–1845
Republic of Texas. The present-day outlines of the U.S. states are superimposed on the boundaries of 1836–1845

On 2 March 1836, the Convention of 1836 signed a Declaration of Independence.[40][41] On 21 April 1836, the Texans—led by General Sam Houston—won their independence at the Battle of San Jacinto. Santa Anna's capture led to the Treaties of Velasco. Mexico repudiated the treaties and vowed to reconquer Texas. Later in 1836, the Texans adopted a constitution that formally legalized slavery. The Republic of Texas included the area of the present state of Texas, and additional unoccupied territory to the west and northwest.[39]

Most Texans wanted their Republic to be annexed into the United States. Events such as the Dawson Massacre and two recaptures of Béxar in Texas of 1842 added momentum to the desire for statehood.[42] However, strong abolitionist opposition to adding a slave state blocked Texas's admission until pro-annexation James K. Polk won the election of 1844. On December 29, 1845, Texas was admitted to the U.S. as a constituent state of the Union.[43] The Mexican–American War followed, with decisive victories by the U.S.[44] Texas's boundaries were set at their present form after the Compromise of 1850. Land which later became half of present day New Mexico, a third of Colorado, and small portions of Kansas, Oklahoma, and Wyoming, was ceded for the federal government's assumption of $10 million of the old republic's debt.[45] Post-war Texas grew rapidly as migrants poured into the cotton lands of the state.[46]

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Re: South Osetia under attack
« Reply #632 on: August 13, 2008, 03:04:06 PM »
Invade!?

So far we stopped a genocide. Stopped rabid dogs your regime support.

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« Reply #633 on: August 13, 2008, 03:04:19 PM »
Russia just broke the truce and is rolling into the georgian capital.
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Re: South Osetia under attack
« Reply #634 on: August 13, 2008, 03:05:21 PM »
It;s our own business, no one should "advise" Russia on a question of citizenship.

The point is, they are citizens of two countries, not one. Giving them passports made them Russian citizens. There place of birth makes them Georgian citizens.
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Re: South Osetia under attack
« Reply #635 on: August 13, 2008, 03:05:39 PM »
Nope.

It's up to respectable Moderators here to ban me.

I am the last person to discuss moderation policy here.

I would be glad to pay the $15 a month for boroda... give him an aces high passport. then we can 'protect' him legally, up to and including raping him, destroying his future and taking whatever other liberties are necessary to 'protect' him.
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Re: South Osetia under attack
« Reply #636 on: August 13, 2008, 03:05:46 PM »
Most Texans wanted their Republic to be annexed into the United States.

So did South Osetins.

What's the problem?...

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Re: South Osetia under attack
« Reply #637 on: August 13, 2008, 03:06:51 PM »
Invade!?

So far we stopped a genocide. Stopped rabid dogs your regime support.

Show evidence of genocide by the Georgians. Putin saying there was genocide doesn't count. It must be evidence given by a third party.
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Re: South Osetia under attack
« Reply #638 on: August 13, 2008, 03:10:06 PM »
So did South Osetins.

What's the problem?...

The problem is that the world doesn't work like it did in the 1800's. No country, not even your own recognizes the sovereignity (sp? I think I butchered that one lol) of South Ossetia.

You brought up Texas btw, my post was to show the basic history of how Texas became a state, nothing more.
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« Reply #639 on: August 13, 2008, 03:11:05 PM »
Show evidence of genocide by the Georgians. Putin saying there was genocide doesn't count. It must be evidence given by a third party.

MLRS at the populated city.

Georgian TV showed it boasting they "restore order" in S.O.

That's where I started this thread.

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« Reply #640 on: August 13, 2008, 03:12:45 PM »
Russia just broke the truce and is rolling into the georgian capital.

Did they only agree to the truce so they could refuel their vehicles and resupply their troops in peace? It's looking like that may be the case.
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Re: South Osetia under attack
« Reply #641 on: August 13, 2008, 03:13:04 PM »
The problem is that the world doesn't work like it did in the 1800's. No country, not even your own recognizes the sovereignity (sp? I think I butchered that one lol) of South Ossetia.

You brought up Texas btw, my post was to show the basic history of how Texas became a state, nothing more.

Russia protects it's citizens.

You quoted a text that proves my point.

Dismissed. Next please.

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Re: South Osetia under attack
« Reply #642 on: August 13, 2008, 03:13:17 PM »
MLRS at the populated city.

Georgian TV showed it boasting they "restore order" in S.O.

That's where I started this thread.

It was a response to similiar shelling from the Ossetian' side, Boroda. That's what the news' said earlier.

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Re: South Osetia under attack
« Reply #643 on: August 13, 2008, 03:16:40 PM »
Simple question boroda.

Why didn't the russian military stop at the south osetian border? If the position was to protect the dual citizen georgia/russia population, than why did they cross into mainland georgia?

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Re: South Osetia under attack
« Reply #644 on: August 13, 2008, 03:18:13 PM »
It was a response to similiar shelling from the Ossetian' side, Boroda. That's what the news' said earlier.

Check the timestamps please. I started this thread less then 2 hours after vermins started shooting at Tskhinval.

Shooting. MLRS. At the city. No excuses.

Osetins just want to be left alone. I mean - since 1990, when Georgians had a civil war.