1.05 Ships and kamikazes

[Nuku]

Hardly anyone flies the A6m5 anymore.  Too slow and too soft.

With the coming of the naval vessels in 1.05, I think it'd be useful at least in scenarios to have a "kamikaze" load-out for the a6M5 (and/or C47) which allows the aircraft to hit structures and actually damage them.  Right now, I'm pretty sure you just bounce off.

Not like you couldn't kamikaze anyways with bombs strapped on (dropping at the last second), but I think they packed extra explosive in the fuselage for extra punch.

Or.. (tongue in cheek), when a country gets down to 3 fields, a kamikaze loadout is available for all aircraft types, particularly the useless ones (JU88, C47)  

[Fishu]

Uhh.. no more kamikazes, it is already too easy to kamikaze and reincarnate right after for another kamikaze, with unlimited supply of planes as well.

[Pepino]

I fly zeke!  3/3 vs C-Hog in this tour
   kindly dedicated to Quakegirls    in your Quakeplanes    

No need to kamikaze.


All my shooting love

 

Pepe LePew

[gatt]

Eheh, imagine a blue-big 2x1000lb armed F4U-1D screaming at 550mph+ towards a ship ...

Jokes apart, think about suicide torpedo-boats assault against CV groups as well.

 

[This message has been edited by gatt (edited 12-20-2000).]

[Ripsnort]

The A/C itself will not damage the ship, as in WW2, only the weapons you carry will have any effect.

[-towd_]

get your head out of you bellybutton , as a sailor hell yea a plain augerin in a ship will damage it . just with very good damage control you will probly save the ship . but you hit it in the right place ( about amidships and go thru into engine spaces the ship is doomed .  it was the light weight of the niponese planes that kept um from sinking ships you do the same with a 650 kn corsair and a carrier is probly toast i.e. the engine will go thru to lower decks and start fires . at best 2 months in pearl .

[SKurj]

wake up towd... u are sleepin again...

In AH the aircraft will do absolutely zero damage to any object it hits with the exception of an enemy aircraft  


AKskurj

[Nuku]

 

Originally posted by Ripsnort:
The A/C itself will not damage the ship, as in WW2, only the weapons you carry will have any effect.

Not true.  There are dozens of damage reports indicating guns and gun mounts were taken out by aircraft collision alone.  Indeed, in one incident, the BODY of a kamikaze pilot, catapulted out of the aircraft, knocked out a 40mm gun mount.

US destroyers, which hardly have any armor, took severe structural damage from kamikaze aircraft hits. A zeke weighs over 4000 lbs. (empty weight!) You can call it "rice paper" if you like, but that's 4000lbs of stuff slamming into your ship at over 300mph.  It's gonna hurt.

The second effect is incindiary from the avgas stored in the aircraft, which is not modelled at all in AH, so it doesn't matter.

Also, if you hit a structure with bombs strapped on in AH, the bombs dud.  

If there's no interest, that's fine.  I was just curious.

[GRUNHERZ]

The Missouri still has a dent in its main armour belt where a zero hit it. How thick is that armur now? DDs should be easy pray for suicide attacks. Historically DD radar pickets bore the brunt of kamikaze attacks and sufferd tremendus loses. Destroyes were knocked out, sunk, or disabled esily by such attacks.

[Fishu]

 

Originally posted by Nuku:
Not true.  There are dozens of damage reports indicating guns and gun mounts were taken out by aircraft collision alone.  Indeed, in one incident, the BODY of a kamikaze pilot, catapulted out of the aircraft, knocked out a 40mm gun mount.

That was one brave sucker, still killin after being dead  

Let's not forget that 'napalm' bomb either  
I'd guess that fuel from the tanks would set up a fire as well.. (and we don't like fires on ships, do we?)

[Torque]

Yes only if you make it thru the barrage of AA which I doubt. Diving and holding steady to aim AC for more than a millisecond you'll be vaporized. Time will tell.

[SKurj]

Torque... I sure hope St Nick bringin u a stick fer xmas...  Your posts are becoming more sensible and coherent daily...

Mebbe u should try gunning with a mouse.. anything!!  


AKskurj

[Ripsnort]

Guys, I was referring to AH's A/C, the AH A/C will not do the damage that the A/C historically did in WW2.  Only the AH BOMB will do damage.

[Graywolf]

Also, unlike in real life, it is possible to completely vaporise an aircraft, even with machine guns.

There's not even any any lfaming debris left =(

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Graywolfe <tim@flibble.org>

[Hans]

There is a "Kamikaze" loadout.

Load up some bombs, fly towards your target, and drop them a split second before you impact.

Of course with all those AA guns.....as in TWENTY FOUR 40mm Bofors and TWELVE 5 inch guns on the Baltimore cruisers.(firing radar fused proximity warheads where it just has to be close)......I severerly doubt you will be able to get that close to a ship to ram it.

Hans.