there is no 190 pilot that can beat a hog in the vert, unless he starts out with "Yenny" alt! 
You're comparing a two completely different style planes to each other. Why is it funny that a F4 can usually beat a 190? It's common logic. If someone is stick stirring and doing othing different, it means they have something to learn, and are probably doing so at that moment,...not that you know it all.
You tend to have this delusional concept that everyone enters the game with the same experience as someone who's been here for years, then laugh about it as if you were just born to be a great pilot and you're well ahead of the rest, an "over-achiever".
You're comparing experience to inexperience and a F4 to a 190....and experienced pilot in a F4 is going to stomp the crap out of a inexperienced pilot in a 190 in most cases. What's so special about that?
There's no real magic here Sky. Nothing amazing.
IMO 50% of the rank you carry is because of the plane you fly. When you can carry a huge score in a 190 let me know, that's interesting. I expect someone in a F4 to carry a huge score and ego. <shrug>
You won't even fight me, when I ask where you are you won't tell me, you won't meet me, and then you usually log off soon after I enter the arena. Sooner or later I'm going to make you put your money where your mouth is.

But I'll put my A5 up against your F4 any time, pull me vertical, if I bite you have 50/50 chance. But I wouldn't think that NO 190 pilot can beat you at it. I clubbed a F4 doing it last week.
One, I would not enter it unless i know I've got enough e to take it all the way, I've got a hot rod to beat to the top before he ropes me and shoots me in the face, I know that, I will take it when I'm ready on my terms, not yours.

So ya, if it's 100% your terms you may be right. Who says I'm going to follow you up when I and you know you have the advantage?
Wouldn't you just crap if the first kill I got on your was a vertial? <GGGG>