to all 190 pilots

[Yenny]

There, you're finally getting it.

<--- still waiting for your 190 lesson. I'd like to learn how to outturn an la7 in a 190. That'll be like a 190 w/ the turn capability of a F4U. Omg how do you do it ???

[Tinlizzy]

I've ran into Animal in the MA before,great stick,was a good fight.
Best I've dueled yet was "MAZZ" we went 50/50,a couple of kills apiece and a couple of collisions.

As for Skyrock,he got plastered in a fight then called me out for killing him"I'll beat you any plane ,anywhere,blah blah blah"I.Of course as soon as I said sure lets goto the DA and you can teach me <cause I'm really wanting to learn to fly the 109's>.He wouldnt oblige,just kept yakking and pm'ing about his greatness.He's a decent stick at best and will never achieve anything more than that in this game,of course this is meerly an internet personna,I'm sure in real life he's a kind person<not sure if he's a male or female?>

My point is this,it's your 15$ dollars amonth.play/fly/cherry/anyway you like,people will always gripe cause thats the way people are.People fly the furball arena ,then complain cause they got cherried,but if they hadnt of gotten cherried themselves they were gonna dive on some poor soul in the arena and cherry them,so theyre just po'd cause they got cherried before they got to cherry.

[Yenny]

I've ran into Animal in the MA before,great stick,was a good fight.
Best I've dueled yet was "MAZZ" we went 50/50,a couple of kills apiece and a couple of collisions.

As for Skyrock,he got plastered in a fight then called me out for killing him"I'll beat you any plane ,anywhere,blah blah blah"I.Of course as soon as I said sure lets goto the DA and you can teach me <cause I'm really wanting to learn to fly the 109's>.He wouldnt oblige,just kept yakking and pm'ing about his greatness.He's a decent stick at best and will never achieve anything more than that in this game,of course this is meerly an internet personna,I'm sure in real life he's a kind person<not sure if he's a male or female?>

My point is this,it's your 15$ dollars amonth.play/fly/cherry/anyway you like,people will always gripe cause thats the way people are.People fly the furball arena ,then complain cause they got cherried,but if they hadnt of gotten cherried themselves they were gonna dive on some poor soul in the arena and cherry them,so theyre just po'd cause they got cherried before they got to cherry.

Yea same, I asked him to go to the DA to help me learn how to fight before. But he said he doesn't help the kind like me or something along that line. Oh well ^_^

[Twizzty]

6 cherries in 1 paragraph...I'm INpressed!

[Bruv119]

I felt bad for cherrying tinlizzy twice the other day  he was  busting some serious moves in the 109k4.

I guess he has played before.

[Tinlizzy]

I felt bad for cherrying tinlizzy twice the other day  he was  busting some serious moves in the 109k4.

I guess he has played before.

That'd be correct Bruv.
Gettn picked is part of the game.

[Vudak]

When we reverse roll, I fly the F4U-D and you flew the A5, tell me what option you have tnbin it Vudak. I was on your tail pinging you the entire 5 min since we engage. No matter how good a pilot is, he can only perform to his plane max limitation and he'll hit a brick wall.

The 190s are not my main ride...  I don't practice in them every day.  In them, I am at the stage where you would be if you started to try turnfighting.

But the thing is, Yenny, you do not have the slightest idea what the 190 can do yet.  You think you do - but you don't.  You say, "trust me, I know the 190," but from the way I've seen you fly it, I can tell you 100% accurately that you don't.  You claim that Moot and you are about equal, but I can tell you, again 100% accurately, that you aren't.

You have no idea what that plane's max limitation is because you do not try to push it there and try to push past it.  To learn that kind of thing takes effort and failing over and over again.  It takes swallowing your pride and getting the snot beat out of you over and over again.

You cannot learn what a plane is fully capable of, by only doing what you have already found it is capable of.

You cannot learn what you are fully capable of, by only doing what you are already comfortable of doing.

It's an attitude thing, Yenny, more than anything else.  You speak too much in technical absolutes...  "Can't do this in the horizontal," "With two flaps deployed," etc., etc.  You can't take such things as law.  An infinite amount of variables goes into things.  Guys with pluck figure out how to set up those variables, guys that speak in absolutes and avoid "what won't ever work," generally don't.

You think Creton got great in the K4 by only flying to its strengths?  Think again...  He got great because he learned how to fly it as well as possible in ways he shouldn't.  

And if you're going to insist on speaking in absolutes, at least realize that "outturn" doesn't necessarily imply a flat turn...

This is all friendly advice...  Disregard it if you want...  But believe me, it would be wise to start exploring your aircraft more if you want to continue flying in the DA with some success...  You are currently extremely predictable, which is the last thing you want to be in there.  

[Yenny]

<--- will always be a 190 flyer, even though there are tons better alternative out there. However, gotta stick with the one you love  

[angelsandair]

<--- will always be a 190 flyer, even though there are tons better alternative out there. However, gotta stick with the one you love  

Yep, I'm getting into the P-38, but my sweet little ride is still the P-39.

[Yenny]

The 190s are not my main ride...  I don't practice in them every day.  In them, I am at the stage where you would be if you started to try turnfighting.

But the thing is, Yenny, you do not have the slightest idea what the 190 can do yet.  You think you do - but you don't.  You say, "trust me, I know the 190," but from the way I've seen you fly it, I can tell you 100% accurately that you don't.  You claim that Moot and you are about equal, but I can tell you, again 100% accurately, that you aren't.

You have no idea what that plane's max limitation is because you do not try to push it there and try to push past it.  To learn that kind of thing takes effort and failing over and over again.  It takes swallowing your pride and getting the snot beat out of you over and over again.

You cannot learn what a plane is fully capable of, by only doing what you have already found it is capable of.

You cannot learn what you are fully capable of, by only doing what you are already comfortable of doing.

It's an attitude thing, Yenny, more than anything else.  You speak too much in technical absolutes...  "Can't do this in the horizontal," "With two flaps deployed," etc., etc.  You can't take such things as law.  An infinite amount of variables goes into things.  Guys with pluck figure out how to set up those variables, guys that speak in absolutes and avoid "what won't ever work," generally don't.

You think Creton got great in the K4 by only flying to its strengths?  Think again...  He got great because he learned how to fly it as well as possible in ways he shouldn't.  

And if you're going to insist on speaking in absolutes, at least realize that "outturn" doesn't necessarily imply a flat turn...

This is all friendly advice...  Disregard it if you want...  But believe me, it would be wise to start exploring your aircraft more if you want to continue flying in the DA with some success...  You are currently extremely predictable, which is the last thing you want to be in there.  

I spent tons of time furballing my 190 on the deck. There are campaign where I rarely take 190 above 5k. I got my time of getting the snotch kicked outta me tnbing 190. You know what though, out of all those experience I only learn 190 can't handle tnb well otd. I can only push my 190 otd with so many death before it become boring.

My main ride is 190, I usually don't fly other planes. Though when we fight and I'm in a differnet plane I usually handle it just fine. I mean we can spend hours tnbing F4U v. 190 and I can guarantee you 95% of the fight will end up with F4U coming out victorius no matter if it's you flying the 190 or me flying 190.

You guys flying F4Us and talking to us 190 pilot like we got no skill. Try fly 190 for a few camp take it otd like we tried and tell us how should it be flown. There's a limit of dying every 5 minutes before you get bored of it. Of course every other plane wants to tnb vs 190 because it's 95% a sure kill. Espcially for F4Us, that's like shooting fish in a barrel. So  why is it a challange for F4Us want to tnb vs 190?

A quote from Urchin in a previous discussion about the ability of turnburning a 190.

"An amazing pilot can only take an awful plane so far.  I used to enjoy fighting in the 190A5.  When I used to enjoy fighting in it, it could turn something like 25-30% better than it does now (find Widewings post comparing AH1 and AH2 turning circles).  The way it is now, the A5 is a flying brick, and it is the most agile of the 190s.  You can only give away so many kills to folks before you decide that playing with both arms and a leg taped behind your back is just too much of a handicap.
... I can put up a decent fight, for a bit... but the outcome is never really in doubt.  "

From this thread http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,234137.30.html

I've done my research in fighting the 190, and have took my 190 to define its limit, or at least what I think it is. I probably logged over 4000-5000 deaths in it? I dunno. All I know is if you asking a 190 to tnb like an F4U, it just won't happen.

[Vudak]

Yenny, with respect:

All I know is if you asking a 190 to tnb like an F4U, it just won't happen.

I've seen it happen, very well, with my own eyes.

If you keep going the way you are, your plateau will not be so high.  It's up to you to decide if you're ok with that.  It is, after all, your $15.  You don't have to please anyone but yourself.

 

[Yenny]

Yenny, with respect:

I've seen it happen, very well, with my own eyes.

 

I have yet to meet a 190 that could do that, or seen a film of one. If that's posible it would be awesome to learn, but I really doubt it.

[SkyRock]

"I'll beat you any plane ,anywhere,blah blah blah"I.Of course as soon as I said sure lets goto the DA and you can teach me <cause I'm really wanting to learn to fly the 109's>.

I get asked to the DA about average 5 to 10 times a night lately, if you want to fight, I'm sure I can make time.  I think you're talking our your arse a little here, and I don't think me slapping you back to third grade in the DA is going to help you much.

[SkyRock]

Yea same, I asked him to go to the DA to help me learn how to fight before. But he said he doesn't help the kind like me or something along that line. Oh well ^_^

You gonna come in here and lie?  How many times have I asked you to the DA? 

You are really showing your true colors in this thread.  I had heard some decent things about you lately, but lying to try and gather support, is not going to set well with some folks. 

[Steve]

I have yet to meet a 190 that could do that, or seen a film of one. If that's posible it would be awesome to learn, but I really doubt it.

Don't doubt it. Nath could TnB on the deck with anything and he did it in an A8