USSR reborn?

[Motherland]

Poland was invaded in 1939.

[angelsandair]

Poland was invaded in 1939.

Not what I'm trying to get to you. They could be trying to gobble up as many little nations as they can. If they go after a nation protected by us, it could be war.

Thats why Poland is getting American protection.

[Motherland]

So it's A-O-K for the United States to protect a smaller nation, and then retaliate for a larger nation invading it, but it's not acceptable for Russia to do the same?

[Elfie]

but what do you think the reaction would be if the Ruskies put a missile shield and troops in Mexico?

I imagine there would be lots of yelling and screaming and arm waving in Washington, and then we'd fortify our side of the border.

[Motherland]

Actually this scenario played itself out over 40 years ago and nearly resulted in nuclear war.

[Elfie]

On topic;
You can doubt the effectiveness of it all you want, but Russian equipment, particularly they're jets, are just plain sexy (much more than the newest American jets, though the F-15 will give the newest Sukhois and MiGs a run for their money as far as asthetics go... the F-22 and F-35 are flat out hideous though). And the AK-74M is just a badarse looking firearm Thumbs UP!

Russian equipment may be sexier....I'll give you that. Answer this though, how well did it fare against it's Western counterparts in both Gulf wars?

[Elfie]

Russians were told over breakfast yesterday what really happened in Georgia: the conflict in South Ossetia was part of a plot by Dick Cheney, the Vice-President, to stop Barack Obama being elected president of the United States.

 

[Elfie]

So it's A-O-K for the United States to protect a smaller nation, and then retaliate for a larger nation invading it, but it's not acceptable for Russia to do the same?

When has Russia done this? You can't say they just did it in South Ossetia because South Ossetia is still a separatist province of Georgia. So far, not one country, including Russia has recognized South Ossetia as a separate country.

[john9001]

so is Russia going to "liberate" Poland next or the Ukraine or the Czech republic?

[angelsandair]

So it's A-O-K for the United States to protect a smaller nation, and then retaliate for a larger nation invading it, but it's not acceptable for Russia to do the same?

Osetia isn't a nation. It's a province part of Georgia.

[Boroda]

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article4535173.ece
Russians were told over breakfast yesterday what really happened in Georgia: the conflict in South Ossetia was part of a plot by Dick Cheney, the Vice-President, to stop Barack Obama being elected president of the United States.

Someone is hallucinating. There was nothing like that in Russian news. I strongly advice you to study opponent's POV. Russia Today TV channel may be a good start, they broadcast in English.

McCaine is a looney, but no one here ever discusses the choice of American people in such words.

[Rich46yo]

So it's A-O-K for the United States to protect a smaller nation, and then retaliate for a larger nation invading it, but it's not acceptable for Russia to do the same?

Nope. Because Russia doesnt export freedom and Democracy. And couldnt care a wit about Human rights. And thats what it comes down to.

"Words" arent a good enough reason because you can use them to justify, or legalize, anything.

[Boroda]

When has Russia done this? You can't say they just did it in South Ossetia because South Ossetia is still a separatist province of Georgia. So far, not one country, including Russia has recognized South Ossetia as a separate country.

Kosovo is a separatist province of Serbia, controlled by KLA, a terrorist organisation, that performed ethnic cleansings against native Serbian population.

Ossetia is a classic "divided nation", and it has a right to re-unite like Germany.

[angelsandair]

McCaine is a looney, but no one here ever discusses the choice of American people in such words.

And you assume Obama is better? Obama is a whimp. Only reason Russians want him to get elected. So you can get away with things again.

[Boroda]

Nope. Because Russia doesnt export freedom and Democracy. And couldnt care a wit about Human rights. And thats what it comes down to.

"Words" arent a good enough reason because you can use them to justify, or legalize, anything.

You export not "freedom" or "democracy" but mass-murder and humanitarian catastrophes. I don't want some foreign crooks to dictate me my country's policy by carpet bombings and cruise missiles.