WE ARE GETTING THE N1K2!

[goober69]

i know how to perfectly fight a spit16 la7 nik and p51d/













go to midwar you will never see them lmao 

[crockett]

i know how to perfectly fight a spit16 la7 nik and p51d/


go to midwar you will never see them lmao 

Yea you see nothing but Zeeks & Huri2's there... 

[crockett]

See, I think that is bullpoop.  I think that you guys are just putting on airs to make yourselves feel superior and it just makes you come off as jerks.

Yes, it is relatively easy to use.  But that is not a bad thing.  New players, or players who have skill limitations, should have fun aircraft to use and if some skilled vets use it because they like it, that is ok too.  A lot of players move on to other aircraft after getting bored in the P-51D, Spitfire Mk XVI, N1K2-J and La-7, some don't, and some aren't subscribed for that long.  The fact is that we have a balance in AH right now where the top four aircraft all get 6-7% of the total kills each tour.  That is a hell of a lot better than it was five years ago.  Perking or getting rid of any one of them would most likely result in less variety, not more.


Also, simply from a subscriber inducing point of view, the most likely aircraft for new players to be in should have priority to be updated as pretty graphics help generate subscriptions.  Now with the N1K2-J being brought up to AH2 standards the four standouts are all going to look good.


EDIT:

I did not type "bullpoop", the BB changed the word.  I think you know what I did type.

I could care less what a noob flys, they aren't much of a threat regardless. Hell I've often told new players to go jump in a spit 9 and learn the game and have fun. However I always tell them to move on into something else as their skill level progresses.

This for me has nothing to do about feeling superior but more about trying to push players to actually learn some ACM and bring their skill level up. Those three planes (Nik2, Zeeks & Huri2), as I posted before don't really promote learning ACM to newer players. They pretty much teach bad habits and don't really force the player to learn ACM which just dumbs down the community as a whole.

[Gixer]

Fly what ever you like, especially P51s,Nikis,La7s,Spit16 as there is nothing more rewarding then shooting down these easy mode/dweeb rides (especially with a vet at the stick) when your in a high eny fighter.  


<S>...-Gixer

[kvuo75]

Who cares if some flies one plane exclusively?  Doesn't mean they are any less skilled than anyone else, some people just like to fly a particular plane.  All the power to them.  Instead of whining, maybe some TA time is in order so you can learn how to effectively fight against a N1K2.

ack-ack

indeed.. greebo flies f6f exclusively.. i wouldn't call him unskilled. 

and as someone said before, f6f is pretty much like nik without the cannons.

[redman555]

Let me guess, those are the planes that routinely kick your arse?  Only explanation for your comment because someone with at least a quarter of a clue wouldn't have posted such a stellar example of ignorance.

ack-ack

the reason i consider those dweeb planes, they r recommended for "noobs" that first join game... because alot easier 2 fly and shoot ppl down in..


-BigBOBCH

[titanic3]

the reason i consider those dweeb planes, they r recommended for "noobs" that first join game... because alot easier 2 fly ands hoot ppl down in..


-BigBOBCH

Easy you say? Great, I'll enlist you on "How to Fly a Dweeb Plane".. try not to throw up..

[Karnak]

the reason i consider those dweeb planes, they r recommended for "noobs" that first join game... because alot easier 2 fly ands hoot ppl down in..


-BigBOBCH

More important is that they tend to allow a new player to live longer in order to have more chances to learn.  Contrary to what you and others keep saying they do take some skill.  Right actions in them get rewarded and wrong actions tend to get punished, but as they are forgiving the player has a better chance of recovering and continuing the fight.  Getting some kills also keeps the new player interested in the game, encouraging them to keep paying for it.  Players learn very little ACM on the climb out from a base and the flight to another base.

In addition, who are you and your ilk to judge what somebody likes?  Just because you like heavy American iron (guessing based on the P-47 in your avatar) doesn't mean that somebody like wingzero (a Japanese national iirc) doesn't have a valid, personal reason for using the N1K2-J beyond that it is a bit forgiving.  There are many British players and it is perfectly understandable if they, and many others, have a real life fondness of the Spitfire.  The P-51D, which tops the usage every month based on American players fondness for it in reality, gets a free pass in the constant "perk the #2 or #3 or #4 fighter" posts that we have and nobody even thinks for a second that many people like the Spitfire for the same reasons many people like the P-51D.  I will grant you that not many AH players are likely to see the La-7 or N1K2-J that way though.

[Gixer]

There are many British players and it is perfectly understandable if they, and many others, have a real life fondness of the Spitfire.  The P-51D, which tops the usage every month based on American players fondness for it in reality, gets a free pass in the constant "perk the #2 or #3 or #4 fighter" posts that we have and nobody even thinks for a second that many people like the Spitfire for the same reasons many people like the P-51D. 

So why don't they have such a great fondness for the Spit5 over the Spit16 or the P40 over the P51? Understand your point but it's over rulled (for the majority) by the fondness for a easy ride over a hard one.

Simply because an low eny/easy ride you can mistakes and still come away with a win, make one mistake in a high eny/hard ride and your back in the tower.


<S>...-Gixer

[Karnak]

So why don't they have such a great fondness for the Spit5 over the Spit16 or the P40 over the P51? Understand your point but it's over rulled (for the majority) by the fondness for a easy ride over a hard one.

Simply because an low eny/easy ride you can mistakes and still come away with a win, make one mistake in a high eny/hard ride and your back in the tower.


<S>...-Gixer

Spitfires are, more or less, Spitfires and the P-51D with the bubble canopy is the one most Americans think of when they think of the Mustang.  Why would a below average skilled player use a Spit V when the Mk VIII and XVI are also Spitfires and don't make him a free kill?

Why do you want him to be a free kill?

[Masherbrum]

Thanks HTC, any got details on this plane?

Can't sneak nothing past you.   Even a remodel of a plane we already have.   

[Gixer]

Spitfires are, more or less, Spitfires and the P-51D with the bubble canopy is the one most Americans think of when they think of the Mustang.  Why would a below average skilled player use a Spit V when the Mk VIII and XVI are also Spitfires and don't make him a free kill?

Why do you want him to be a free kill?

I wasn't arguing the fact about Spits being good planes for newbies, I totally agree. It's the nostalgic reasons that I disagreed with no matter what their skill level, people fly top tier rides simply for their performance and easy kills. If they were feeling nostalgic for flying an American ride surely you would see more P40s a fantastic plane with great history. You don't simply because they take far more skill to get and land kills in.

I'm sure most peoples reasoning for choosing the Pony D over the B is for it's two extra guns increased performance and hence better BnZ abilities. Not because they feel more nostalgic in a bubble canopy.


<S>...-Gixer

[FTJR]

I think most people start in Ah with some sort of nostalgic reason. But a brief trip in the LWA, in a p40 say, shows them the error of their ways, and the move on to more competitive planes, till they build up the skill, which may take years, by that time they have forgotten their former loves and stay in the more performing planes.

[saantana]

Im a known spixteen noob.

From personal experience, I was flying along once when Delirium happened to be flying with me just out of the airfield on TT island heading towards the furball. He made a statement to me, saying "Saantana, get out of that plane, your better than that".
When I heard that, it was the first time when I seriously considered trying something new. And I did, and am putting my sights on different rides when I start flying again.
My thought is: instead of calling people noobs, let them become good in whatever they prefer and then give them a nudge not by name calling but by some sort of recognition? That worked for me.

  Del

P.S - I dont know if this is any good, cause I started flying the 190 D9 instead 

[Ack-Ack]

Im a known spixteen noob.

From personal experience, I was flying along once when Delirium happened to be flying with me just out of the airfield on TT island heading towards the furball. He made a statement to me, saying "Saantana, get out of that plane, your better than that".
When I heard that, it was the first time when I seriously considered trying something new. And I did, and am putting my sights on different rides when I start flying again.
My thought is: instead of calling people noobs, let them become good in whatever they prefer and then give them a nudge not by name calling but by some sort of recognition? That worked for me.

  Del

P.S - I dont know if this is any good, cause I started flying the 190 D9 instead 

I respect Del a lot but I think he was wrong.  The only factor that should play in what plane you fly is whether or not you have fun in that particular plane.  Instead of being 'shamed' into flying another plane, better yourself in other areas like improve your ACM and flying skills.  Go to some of the Training Arena clinics that are held regularly, ask some of the better flyers to help you work on your ACM. 

Don't get me wrong, Del did a great thing by opening up your eyes to other options but don't let anyone shame you into taking that step.  There are no dweeb planes, just dweeb pilots.


ack-ack