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Re: What a friking boring game this has become
« Reply #90 on: August 17, 2008, 11:53:02 PM »
All I did tonight was chase runners.  Finally, exasperated after a couple hours of this I went to the DA to find a fight and all I found in the furball area were more runners.

What a joke.

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i kept getting vulched by a p38, or picked by his buddie in the 190, so i upped from another field. got there with speed and alt, and the fw was gone, but the 38 was still there vulching n picking. i dove on him, messed up the pass, and he ran. i didn't think a 38G could outrun a spit9?

 on the good side of that, that let more guys get airborn for the defense of the base
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Re: What a friking boring game this has become
« Reply #91 on: August 17, 2008, 11:53:30 PM »
That's one reason I love the Typhoon. Almost any plane in the set figures they have a good chance at it. I almost never get ran away on, they'll prefer to fight.

And it seems to have good elevator authority at very low speed...  After a high yo-yo I was about to make a guns pass on a typhy below me that was in the middle of a hard, flat turn.  Instead he just turned straight up in anticipation of a head-on, :eek: fortunately I saw what he was up to and pulled away.
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Re: What a friking boring game this has become
« Reply #92 on: August 18, 2008, 12:06:36 AM »
For the most part I don't care what style of play that some one chooses runs,Ho's,picks,gangs, what ever! It's what makes the game for me so good you just never know what the other guy is going to do.

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Re: What a friking boring game this has become
« Reply #93 on: August 18, 2008, 12:58:30 AM »
If you're going to fight, then fight. If you don't want to fight, run away & keep running all the way home. Those that run for 2 sectors clear out of icon range & then reverse back after the other guy gives up, over & over & over are spineless jellyfish & should find another hobby. What kind of fun can it be to never take a risk? You may learn something. How anyone can defend this type of play is beyond me.

 I don't mind the b&z'ers too much. It's the ones that I just described that are a cancer in this game.
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Re: What a friking boring game this has become
« Reply #94 on: August 18, 2008, 01:14:16 AM »
If you're going to fight, then fight. If you don't want to fight, run away & keep running all the way home. Those that run for 2 sectors clear out of icon range & then reverse back after the other guy gives up, over & over & over are spineless jellyfish & should find another hobby. What kind of fun can it be to never take a risk? You may learn something. How anyone can defend this type of play is beyond me.

 I don't mind the b&z'ers too much. It's the ones that I just described that are a cancer in this game.
Again I will say the same thing you just never know what the other person is going to do.

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Re: What a friking boring game this has become
« Reply #95 on: August 18, 2008, 01:27:53 AM »




Actually P-51 hunting has actually become one of my favorite pastimes.



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Re: What a friking boring game this has become
« Reply #96 on: August 18, 2008, 01:47:47 AM »
Yes, the best and the brightest WWII tacticians work for history channel.

Actually i did see a US ww2 pilot say on Discovery that they used the HO tactic several times against the more nimble and undergunned zeke over in the far east. They always won the HO.

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Re: What a friking boring game this has become
« Reply #97 on: August 18, 2008, 02:15:28 AM »
Ummm, I didn't say I did a flat horizontal turn...In my tactics guides I say never turn purely vertical or horizontal when avoiding a gun pass.

And I never said a flat turn, I said any type of break/turn with or without any vertical element in it, whether slightly diving or climbing. Your giving all the advantage to the attacker to just preform a hi or low yo yo and still maintain an easy advantage over you if you keep going for turns as defensive ACM when there are options to try reverse situation maintain E and be more aggressive.


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Re: What a friking boring game this has become
« Reply #98 on: August 18, 2008, 02:18:25 AM »
http://www.p47pilots.com/P47-Pilots.cfm?c=incP47BiographyHome.cfm&vm=BIO&pilotid=80&p=Joseph%20P.%20Celauro This fellows only encounter with an enemy plane was a 262 they both made two Ho passes & on the second pass got some hits on an engine of the 262. With that the 262 broke off. I always enjoy talking to him always has great stories to tell.

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Re: What a friking boring game this has become
« Reply #99 on: August 18, 2008, 02:29:39 AM »
 Again, the same ol' kind of "vet crap".

 The n00bs and mediocre people have to 'learn' from the vets by committing themselves to fights they cannot win... and whatever measures the meager folk could, to the best of their own limited capabilities, is something to be abolished, since the "vets" need to have fun shooting gaggles of fighters down every single sortie in their proud ol' "not so superplane", so they can feed their egos that run deeper than the Mariana Trench.  


 Fate is not without a twist of irony, since there have been a variety of suggestions concerning the MA, which might have changed things a bit.


* Some people have suggested moving fields further apart, so it actually takes some time to run to safety, instead of being able to just pointing nose-down and run away at 380mph @ deck for 2 minutes and reach the safety of the home field... but nooooo, everyone wants to just get up, climb to 10k-ish in 2 minutes and then immediately enter the fray.

* Some people have suggested rolling-planesets, in which case most earlier model planes would have less of a performance disparity, often more lightly armed and takes lots more maneuvering and fighting and thus, increasing the chance of finding good, fun, furballs.... but noooooo, no one wants to give up their favorite plane even for a couple of days.

* Some people have suggested perking the higher tier planes of each countries set lightly, so the arena numbers can be slightly forced into less super-planes, and more mid-war planes.. but nooooooo, this is against the freedom of the people.

* Some people have suggested a variety of changes to either the MA strat-mechanics, so subtle but constant effects in the course of the 'war' will effect the variation of the MA plane types, either by attrition or by logistics... but nooooooooo, its too complicated and their brains would explode.


 ...and on and on and on and on..

 Frankly, the people that have grown disgruntled about all the "runners", have brought it down upon themselves. On one hand, vets go about saying 'fly anything you like, in the way you like it', but when people really do fly what they like, in the way they like it, vets hate it.

 Well, good luck in your crusade to make people fly in the way you want them to !


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Re: What a friking boring game this has become
« Reply #100 on: August 18, 2008, 03:23:00 AM »
And yet, when I ask if anyone is looking for fight or wants to DA, only the same two guys respond  :rofl


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Re: What a friking boring game this has become
« Reply #101 on: August 18, 2008, 03:27:34 AM »
Again, the same ol' kind of "vet crap".

 The n00bs and mediocre people have to 'learn' from the vets by committing themselves to fights they cannot win... and whatever measures the meager folk could, to the best of their own limited capabilities, is something to be abolished, since the "vets" need to have fun shooting gaggles of fighters down every single sortie in their proud ol' "not so superplane", so they can feed their egos that run deeper than the Mariana Trench.  


 Fate is not without a twist of irony, since there have been a variety of suggestions concerning the MA, which might have changed things a bit.


* Some people have suggested moving fields further apart, so it actually takes some time to run to safety, instead of being able to just pointing nose-down and run away at 380mph @ deck for 2 minutes and reach the safety of the home field... but nooooo, everyone wants to just get up, climb to 10k-ish in 2 minutes and then immediately enter the fray.

* Some people have suggested rolling-planesets, in which case most earlier model planes would have less of a performance disparity, often more lightly armed and takes lots more maneuvering and fighting and thus, increasing the chance of finding good, fun, furballs.... but noooooo, no one wants to give up their favorite plane even for a couple of days.

* Some people have suggested perking the higher tier planes of each countries set lightly, so the arena numbers can be slightly forced into less super-planes, and more mid-war planes.. but nooooooo, this is against the freedom of the people.

* Some people have suggested a variety of changes to either the MA strat-mechanics, so subtle but constant effects in the course of the 'war' will effect the variation of the MA plane types, either by attrition or by logistics... but nooooooooo, its too complicated and their brains would explode.


 ...and on and on and on and on..

 Frankly, the people that have grown disgruntled about all the "runners", have brought it down upon themselves. On one hand, vets go about saying 'fly anything you like, in the way you like it', but when people really do fly what they like, in the way they like it, vets hate it.

 Well, good luck in your crusade to make people fly in the way you want them to !



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Re: What a friking boring game this has become
« Reply #102 on: August 18, 2008, 06:12:31 AM »
Frankly, the people that have grown disgruntled about all the "runners", have brought it down upon themselves. On one hand, vets go about saying 'fly anything you like, in the way you like it', but when people really do fly what they like, in the way they like it, vets hate it.

I am absoluteley convinced that the "fly what you like" proponents and the BBS & CH200 "the game has degraded / nobody fights / lame runnerz" whiners are mostly not the same people.
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Re: What a friking boring game this has become
« Reply #103 on: August 18, 2008, 06:40:27 AM »
...... they also say "How can you learn to fight if your always running away from a fight?"

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Re: What a friking boring game this has become
« Reply #104 on: August 18, 2008, 07:03:10 AM »
All I did tonight was chase runners.  Finally, exasperated after a couple hours of this I went to the DA to find a fight and all I found in the furball area were more runners.

What a joke.
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