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Offline Maniac

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What should be done about Russias occupation of Georgia?
« on: August 18, 2008, 03:02:38 PM »
So, what is your personal oppinion on what should be done about the Russian occupation of Georgia? Medved promised Sarkozy that the troops would be going home today. And there is no signs of this happening. Rather the opposite.

What is your personal oppinion about what should be done at this stage?

Ill start. Europe and the USA should start forming a Military coalition similar to the one that was formed for Gulf War 1. The US and Europe should start to send some kind of troops to the region.
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Re: What should be done about Russias occupation of Georgia?
« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2008, 03:05:59 PM »
I'll agree with what you said, but I think Europe should deal with it, or at least mostly. U.S. is spread thin as it is, IMHO.
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Re: What should be done about Russias occupation of Georgia?
« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2008, 03:06:14 PM »
Ask The Beard.







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Re: What should be done about Russias occupation of Georgia?
« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2008, 03:10:24 PM »
Ill start. Europe and the USA should start forming a Military coalition similar to the one that was formed for Gulf War 1. The US and Europe should start to send some kind of troops to the region.

What? No sanctions?
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Re: What should be done about Russias occupation of Georgia?
« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2008, 03:12:44 PM »
Apparently there is concern Medvedev is not in control (gasps)......

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Re: What should be done about Russias occupation of Georgia?
« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2008, 03:13:57 PM »
Sanctions. Absolutely. But ONLY if the sanctions pass the UN Security Council where Russia is a member with veto power. We must follow procedure.

Then, if it passes, allow 12 years for the sanctions to work.. give or take a few years.

If the sanctions don't work THEN roll-out the big guns. Put the measure before the UNSC again and vote on even tougher sanctions, to include crossing Russia off the Christmas card list of every other G8 nation.

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Re: What should be done about Russias occupation of Georgia?
« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2008, 03:27:09 PM »
If Europe wants to get involved and help out all they have to do is grant Georgias request to join NATO. At that point Russia either backs out, or gets it's butt handed to them. I bet this time around the Germans could take Moscow.
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Re: What should be done about Russias occupation of Georgia?
« Reply #7 on: August 18, 2008, 03:29:05 PM »
Sanctions. Absolutely. But ONLY if the sanctions pass the UN Security Council where Russia is a member with veto power. We must follow procedure.

Certainly.  And the UNSC must agree on the use of military force as well.
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Re: What should be done about Russias occupation of Georgia?
« Reply #8 on: August 18, 2008, 03:30:31 PM »
My problem is with that arrogant twit leading Georgia.  He could have handled the initial problem much differently and avoided giving the russians a reason.

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Re: What should be done about Russias occupation of Georgia?
« Reply #9 on: August 18, 2008, 03:41:33 PM »
Sanctions. Absolutely.

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Re: What should be done about Russias occupation of Georgia?
« Reply #10 on: August 18, 2008, 03:42:52 PM »
My problem is with that arrogant twit leading Georgia.  He could have handled the initial problem much differently and avoided giving the russians a reason.

I agree to that. But the same thing could be said about the Iraq invasion of Kuwait. Saddam did not just wake up one day and decided to invade Kuwait for its oil. There were other reasons behind it.

I can see alot of parallels between Iraqs invasion of Kuwait, and Russias invasion of Georgia. And to be honest, the same measures should be taken to solve this conflict as in Gulf War 1.

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Re: What should be done about Russias occupation of Georgia?
« Reply #11 on: August 18, 2008, 03:44:07 PM »
So, what is your personal oppinion on what should be done about the Russian occupation of Georgia? Medved promised Sarkozy that the troops would be going home today. And there is no signs of this happening. Rather the opposite.

What is your personal oppinion about what should be done at this stage?

Ill start. Europe and the USA should start forming a Military coalition similar to the one that was formed for Gulf War 1. The US and Europe should start to send some kind of troops to the region.


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Re: What should be done about Russias occupation of Georgia?
« Reply #12 on: August 18, 2008, 03:46:12 PM »

what can it do to us? can it harm us that they're there?

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Re: What should be done about Russias occupation of Georgia?
« Reply #13 on: August 18, 2008, 03:46:39 PM »
Maniac, you are a lone voice crying out in the wilderness. I wonder how many of your fellow Euro posters (other than Dowding maybe) will agree with you?

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Re: What should be done about Russias occupation of Georgia?
« Reply #14 on: August 18, 2008, 03:46:52 PM »
And just how should he have handled Russia undermining his authority?  What if Russia had done the same in the US and handed out passports to everyone that wanted them.  Then if we had an issue with those people wanting to seceed from the US and we did not want that, would Russia attack us then?  Seems the logic there is a little messed up.  Isn't that the same type of colonizing that the Nazis and Japan used before WWII to push their territory further?

Besides, all politicians are arrogant.  Just look at Putin and Obamassiah.

Also, another point.  What if Russia had gone to the UN first instead of attacking a soveriegn nation?  Would things be different?  Or, were they just interested in returning the USSR to its former state?  
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