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Re: What should be done about Russias occupation of Georgia?
« Reply #45 on: August 18, 2008, 06:19:52 PM »
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except that russia thinks they're great for winnaing a "war" with them.

Well....Boroda certainly does.  :uhoh

Although I am not sure what winnaing is......




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Re: What should be done about Russias occupation of Georgia?
« Reply #46 on: August 18, 2008, 06:47:08 PM »
Re: What should be done about Russias occupation of Georgia?

I don't see anything happening....lots of tough talk and big words thrown around...and the "World Condemnation" of it. WHich means jack **** to Russia. The played this thing perfectly and under the watchful eyes of the world. I don't for a minute think it wasn't planned. To many troops and equipment to fast.

If however the world is loking for a BIG fight....then they could certainly get one here. If the U.S. is smart , IMHO , they'll keep thier mouths shut...ears and eyes wide open....and watch. Help in a limted fashion until they are needed for BIG things. Other than that tho....I hope this country keeps quiet for a while.
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Re: What should be done about Russias occupation of Georgia?
« Reply #47 on: August 18, 2008, 06:58:24 PM »
Re: What should be done about Russias occupation of Georgia?

I don't see anything happening....lots of tough talk and big words thrown around...and the "World Condemnation" of it. WHich means jack **** to Russia. The played this thing perfectly and under the watchful eyes of the world. I don't for a minute think it wasn't planned. To many troops and equipment to fast.

If however the world is loking for a BIG fight....then they could certainly get one here. If the U.S. is smart , IMHO , they'll keep thier mouths shut...ears and eyes wide open....and watch. Help in a limted fashion until they are needed for BIG things. Other than that tho....I hope this country keeps quiet for a while.

...That's a notion I wish I could share, Red. Unfortunately, this kind of thing is bad either one way or the other in this situation.

If the U.S. steps' up it's military presence, or directly uses military force in this situation, It could spark a much, much larger war.

If it does nothing, It sends' a message that being an ally of the U.S. is simply being a chump. It could also make some countries' change allegiances, Or do something like suddenly pull all of their troops' out of Iraq or Afghanistan. All kind's of bad things diplomatically, At a time when world opinion is against us anyway, thanks' to Iraq. There's gonna have to be a careful response of some kind here.

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Re: What should be done about Russias occupation of Georgia?
« Reply #48 on: August 18, 2008, 07:02:08 PM »
Well....Boroda certainly does.  :uhoh

Although I am not sure what winnaing is......




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Re: What should be done about Russias occupation of Georgia?
« Reply #49 on: August 18, 2008, 07:05:02 PM »
...That's a notion I wish I could share, Red. Unfortunately, this kind of thing is bad either one way or the other in this situation.



If it does nothing, It sends' a message that being an ally of the U.S. is simply being a chump. It could also make some countries' change allegiances, Or do something like suddenly pull all of their troops' out of Iraq or Afghanistan. All kind's of bad things diplomatically, At a time when world opinion is against us anyway, thanks' to Iraq. There's gonna have to be a careful response of some kind here.


i don't think that anyone will change allegiences if we do nothing.

remember......smart people fear the person that is a little too quiet.
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Re: What should be done about Russias occupation of Georgia?
« Reply #50 on: August 18, 2008, 07:08:43 PM »
...That's a notion I wish I could share, Red. Unfortunately, this kind of thing is bad either one way or the other in this situation.

If the U.S. steps' up it's military presence, or directly uses military force in this situation, It could spark a much, much larger war.

If it does nothing, It sends' a message that being an ally of the U.S. is simply being a chump. It could also make some countries' change allegiances, Or do something like suddenly pull all of their troops' out of Iraq or Afghanistan. All kind's of bad things diplomatically, At a time when world opinion is against us anyway, thanks' to Iraq. There's gonna have to be a careful response of some kind here.

I argee with ramifications...Pretty much like what you said. Lots of things could be done quietly however. Aid...wepons sent to them. Diplomatic relations with countries and words of help to Georgia. The retorhic and war drum beating should be squelched tho. IMO....just keep things moving diplomatically...until you have to make a stand. I don't believe that this is a line drawn just yet.

I'm all for kicking someones tail...and doing it big time. But right now , with a military that is strecthed thin...economy that is suffering due to oil prices and gas prices....an election coimg that has this country pretty much split down the middle....A Congress that is as useless as tits on a boar hog....I'd just a sonn Bush and the cabinet....keep a tight lip.
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Re: What should be done about Russias occupation of Georgia?
« Reply #51 on: August 18, 2008, 08:29:49 PM »

uumm.....that's cap's monday from hell version of winning :rofl :rofl

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Re: What should be done about Russias occupation of Georgia?
« Reply #52 on: August 18, 2008, 08:32:16 PM »
I think Europe should step up to the plate and take care of their own backyard. They won't though, if anything has to be done it will be America doing it and getting criticized for it at the same time.
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Re: What should be done about Russias occupation of Georgia?
« Reply #53 on: August 18, 2008, 08:52:45 PM »
I have given this some thought and I have finally come up with an answer.

The UN should draft GScholz, give him the rank of Major and put him in charge of a Dutch battalion on peacekeeping duty in Tiblisi.

There, all fixed. Nothing could possibly go wrong.
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Re: What should be done about Russias occupation of Georgia?
« Reply #54 on: August 18, 2008, 10:18:30 PM »
So, what is your personal oppinion on what should be done about the Russian occupation of Georgia? Medved promised Sarkozy that the troops would be going home today. And there is no signs of this happening. Rather the opposite.

What is your personal oppinion about what should be done at this stage?

Ill start. Europe and the USA should start forming a Military coalition similar to the one that was formed for Gulf War 1. The US and Europe should start to send some kind of troops to the region.
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Re: What should be done about Russias occupation of Georgia?
« Reply #55 on: August 18, 2008, 10:31:51 PM »
Sanctions. Absolutely. But ONLY if the sanctions pass the UN Security Council where Russia is a member with veto power. We must follow procedure.

Then, if it passes, allow 12 years for the sanctions to work.. give or take a few years.

If the sanctions don't work THEN Rollo the big guns. Put the measure before the UNSC again and vote on even tougher sanctions, to include crossing Russia off the Christmas card list of every other G8 nation.

Then we'll have peace in our time!
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Re: What should be done about Russias occupation of Georgia?
« Reply #56 on: August 18, 2008, 10:42:45 PM »
CNN journalist asking an Russian mother that lost four sons.
"How did that hapend?"
"Well first died in Poland, second in Czechoslovakia, third in Hungary, fourth in Afghanistan"
"How did your husband take it?"
"Very hard,he devoted his life to travel around the world to spread the word about American aggression"

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Re: What should be done about Russias occupation of Georgia?
« Reply #57 on: August 18, 2008, 10:45:37 PM »


Ill start. Europe and the USA should start forming a Military coalition similar to the one that was formed for Gulf War 1. The US and Europe should start to send some kind of troops to the region.
I disagree, im only a teenager and odnt understand the world like many adults may, but after seeing, from my eyes, how little progress we have made in the War on Terrorism, I feel the last thing the US needs is to be helping another country with thier headaches when we can barly maagae our own as a country. just my sight of it through the eyes of a boy my age

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Re: What should be done about Russias occupation of Georgia?
« Reply #58 on: August 18, 2008, 10:49:53 PM »
not knowing too much about the area, or if or not it is very important to the US...........


if it's not an important area to the US, we should stay out.....at least appear to stay out. let europe handle their own problems for now. we're extended far enough with iraq, and afganastan.

 if it is.........i don't know really.........
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Re: What should be done about Russias occupation of Georgia?
« Reply #59 on: August 18, 2008, 11:13:40 PM »
I have given this some thought and I have finally come up with an answer.

The UN should draft GScholz, give him the rank of Major and put him in charge of a Dutch battalion on peacekeeping duty in Tiblisi.

There, all fixed. Nothing could possibly go wrong.

Good one Toad!  :lol
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