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« Reply #15 on: August 22, 2008, 11:51:08 AM »
So at what point in our history where we Americans the "Wild Pigs"? 

We were "wild pigs" when the federal government ONLY consisted of the President (executive branch) the Supreme Court, and Congress. Once we started getting all these federal agencies with the acronyms for names, IRS, FEMA, FCC, ATF, ect..... those are the fences and they just keep building more and making the ones in place larger to keep the herd reigned in and under control. :mad:
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« Reply #16 on: August 22, 2008, 12:35:33 PM »
Let me make a list and I will get back with you!!

I'm still making a list...man this could take a long time!
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« Reply #17 on: August 22, 2008, 12:39:31 PM »
Cap1....check out the new edf I built...this baby is fast, around 110 mph
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You gotta get one of these...it goes 175 out of the box!!
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« Reply #18 on: August 22, 2008, 12:41:10 PM »
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« Reply #19 on: August 22, 2008, 12:50:04 PM »
Only a pig would be dumb enough to believe this propoganda story.

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« Reply #20 on: August 22, 2008, 01:11:35 PM »
I'm still making a list...man this could take a long time!

You've got plenty of time. In half an hour I'm off for the weekend and debating using my laptop for a frisbee. Long week here.  :(

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« Reply #21 on: August 22, 2008, 01:15:39 PM »
I hope the first right the government takes away is the right to overuse, and to use inappropriately, the exclamation point.


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« Reply #22 on: August 22, 2008, 01:44:57 PM »

they're pushing harder for gun control. in NJ, you have to have specific documents simply to renew your drivers license. they're putting cameras everywhere. they're tapping phones.

That's a state government violation of the Constitution. However, we've seen recently that it can be successfully fought at the Supreme Court level, which is a great thing.

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hell, we had one of our R/C jets crash, about 6 months ago. homeland security showed up.

I find that funny & sad at the same time. I'm still anticipating a visit over some of my paintball projects.

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there's TFR's everywhere the president goes. i don't think there used to be. 

A bunch of things changed once Kennedy was assassinated. I'll agree it's pretty silly though. I remember something about a multiple hour delay Clinton caused getting a haircut on Air Force One. I don't know why they'd be that afraid of other aircraft though, when a guy with a MANPAD is logically a far more realistic threat.


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if you bump class b airspace accidently, you used only to get a slap on the wrist. now you get a visit from men in black suits and ties.

You can already be arrested for trespassing. Since, apparently, this has always been against the rules judging from your comment, it's not a freedom taken away. It's just a waste of government resources when the guys show up.

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as for the cell phone......all cell phones are trackable. even when they're turned off. you pay cash, and if there;s a govt agency interested in you, chances are they watched you buy it.....it's then a very simple matter to track you through it.

I'm thinking you give the government way too much credit on that one.  :noid   We can't be bothered to monitor our own southern border. A large joint task force couldn't find one guy hiding in the woods in Georgia. Reminds me of the people screaming that people would be put in front of military tribunals on barges offshore and executed when the patriot act was first brought up.

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« Reply #23 on: August 22, 2008, 03:29:45 PM »
That's a state government violation of the Constitution. However, we've seen recently that it can be successfully fought at the Supreme Court level, which is a great thing.

I find that funny & sad at the same time. I'm still anticipating a visit over some of my paintball projects.

A bunch of things changed once Kennedy was assassinated. I'll agree it's pretty silly though. I remember something about a multiple hour delay Clinton caused getting a haircut on Air Force One. I don't know why they'd be that afraid of other aircraft though, when a guy with a MANPAD is logically a far more realistic threat.

the presidential TFR's started after 911


You can already be arrested for trespassing. Since, apparently, this has always been against the rules judging from your comment, it's not a freedom taken away. It's just a waste of government resources when the guys show up.it actually is. i'm sure you've read about guys being forced down for violating TFR's, and for violating class B. like i said......it never used to be that serious.

I'm thinking you give the government way too much credit on that one.  :noid   We can't be bothered to monitor our own southern border. A large joint task force couldn't find one guy hiding in the woods in Georgia. Reminds me of the people screaming that people would be put in front of military tribunals on barges offshore and executed when the patriot act was first brought up.i'm thinking i don't. i've seen the equipment myself. we used it on a SAR mission a couple years ago.


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« Reply #24 on: August 22, 2008, 03:30:47 PM »
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« Reply #25 on: August 22, 2008, 03:56:10 PM »
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« Reply #26 on: August 22, 2008, 04:27:26 PM »
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« Reply #27 on: August 22, 2008, 07:06:45 PM »
Of course, you can say the same thing about the Conservative "Sacrifice a little freedom for a little security" progression as well.

That's not Conservatism.  It may be republicans doing it, but it's not Conservative.
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« Reply #28 on: August 22, 2008, 10:36:36 PM »
Precisely which freedoms have you sacrificed? Just curious. I think that approach is pretty silly... but other than a longer line at the airport... what freedoms have you specifically lost? The telco acts? That's a joke. You can go buy a cell phone at a gas station, pay in cash, and use time cards, paid for in cash. No way to effectively track it.

This is one of the very latest "Fence rails" being installed. You probably won't notice this particular new fence until they come to pick you up. But, what the heck!...at least you'll have all the free corn you can eat.  :uhoh

And before someone says "Hey I've got nothing to hide!" better think again...circumstantial evidence gleaned from today's modern data mining techniques can be construed in multiple ways against a person if the powers that be decide your not a "patriotic citizen" for instance.

It was once generally understood that if a person did nothing wrong he could reasonably presume the government would have no reason to "investigate" that person..that freedom is gone now.

These types of investigations have probably gone on for a while. But now with modern technology it is oh so much easier to accomplish with much larger groups of "suspects". 

Now they are coming right out in the open with it.

I had a friend in law enforcement once tell me "From our perspective there a two kinds of civilians-- Criminals and criminals that haven't been caught yet."

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WASHINGTON — A Justice Department plan would loosen restrictions on the Federal Bureau of Investigation to allow agents to open a national security or criminal investigation against someone without any clear basis for suspicion, Democratic lawmakers briefed on the details said Wednesday.

The plan, which could be made public next month, has already generated intense interest and speculation. Little is known about its precise language, but civil liberties advocates say they fear it could give the government even broader license to open terrorism investigations.

Congressional staff members got a glimpse of some of the details in closed briefings this month, and four Democratic senators told Attorney General Michael B. Mukasey in a letter on Wednesday that they were troubled by what they heard.

The senators said the new guidelines would allow the F.B.I. to open an investigation of an American, conduct surveillance, pry into private records and take other investigative steps “without any basis for suspicion.” The plan “might permit an innocent American to be subjected to such intrusive surveillance based in part on race, ethnicity, national origin, religion, or on protected First Amendment activities,” the letter said. It was signed by Russ Feingold of Wisconsin, Richard J. Durbin of Illinois, Edward M. Kennedy of Massachusetts and Sheldon Whitehouse of Rhode Island......
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« Reply #29 on: August 23, 2008, 12:42:03 AM »
Anyone here read This Perfect Day?
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