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Offline fyvsix

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Why the D40?
« on: August 22, 2008, 11:54:07 AM »
Maybe some of you can enlighten me as to why Hitech decided to go with the P-47D-40 in lieu of the D30? According to Freeman, there were 665 D40's build as opposed to 2600 D30's which was quite a big production model block. Most of the late war Thunderbolt units had D30's but I've yet to figure out who used the D40 beside post war countries like Peru. The D30 and D40 were very similar, having the same engine and so forth. I think the D40 had a factory fillet and K-14, but these were field moded on D-27's and 30's anyway. Even the D40 skins in the game are from D30's for the most part. It almost seems as if it was as simple typo. Any input would be appreciated. They could probably due with a late model razorback (D21 or so) as well, with better ords/tank racks as well.

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Re: Why the D40?
« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2008, 12:25:58 PM »
We want ubers.. 40 is better than 30.. :D

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Re: Why the D40?
« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2008, 05:21:13 AM »
Why not?
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Re: Why the D40?
« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2008, 05:53:49 PM »
Wasn't the D30 in game, just taken out and replaced with the D40?
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Re: Why the D40?
« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2008, 06:39:51 PM »
Wasn't the D30 in game, just taken out and replaced with the D40?

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Re: Why the D40?
« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2008, 09:49:51 PM »
Negative.

It was also my recollection that we had a D-30 and that they simply renamed it the D-40.  May have been D-40 specs all along, I suppose.

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Re: Why the D40?
« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2008, 11:32:09 PM »
It was also my recollection that we had a D-30 and that they simply renamed it the D-40.  May have been D-40 specs all along, I suppose.

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Re: Why the D40?
« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2008, 11:55:09 PM »
The internal filenames (like for skins and for sounds) listed it as a d30 and this was corrected after some time. I was never sure why it was like that but I recall some comments when it was fixed.

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Re: Why the D40?
« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2008, 12:46:38 AM »
As of April of 2002 when I started we only had the 11, 25 and 40.   No 30, unless it was earlier.  If so, I'm off the hook.

so it must have happened between 10/01 and 4/02

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Re: Why the D40?
« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2008, 01:36:23 PM »
If my memor yserves me right, it was renamed to D40 when AHII was launched. HT said that it was always D40 just named wrong in the game.

To answer the OP, I guess HTC thought that since most D30s were upgraded in the field to D40 standards, and they model only factory specs, the D40 is the more representative of "in service" late D model. On the other hand, our razorback is very un-representative. It has the water injection but not the paddle blade prop, so it is not really a very early jug, nor is it a "typical" razor back that were upgraded with both - these are the best jug fighters.
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Re: Why the D40?
« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2008, 06:44:29 PM »
If my memor yserves me right, it was renamed to D40 when AHII was launched. HT said that it was always D40 just named wrong in the game.

To answer the OP, I guess HTC thought that since most D30s were upgraded in the field to D40 standards, and they model only factory specs, the D40 is the more representative of "in service" late D model. On the other hand, our razorback is very un-representative. It has the water injection but not the paddle blade prop, so it is not really a very early jug, nor is it a "typical" razor back that were upgraded with both - these are the best jug fighters.
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Re: Why the D40?
« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2008, 10:24:13 PM »
They were certainly meticulous in modeling the canopy framing that ya can't see B24's through :furious

That's just the 1940s version of sunshades.   :D
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Re: Why the D40?
« Reply #12 on: August 25, 2008, 12:52:56 PM »
If my memor yserves me right, it was renamed to D40 when AHII was launched. HT said that it was always D40 just named wrong in the game.

To answer the OP, I guess HTC thought that since most D30s were upgraded in the field to D40 standards, and they model only factory specs, the D40 is the more representative of "in service" late D model. On the other hand, our razorback is very un-representative. It has the water injection but not the paddle blade prop, so it is not really a very early jug, nor is it a "typical" razor back that were upgraded with both - these are the best jug fighters.

D-11's were all fitted with water incjection at the plant, and at that time the paddle-blade had not come into service yet. 

The D-15 saw the wing pylon introduction, and I believe the paddleblade prop.  Props were sent out to groups to give as many Jugs as they could the paddle prop. 

If fitted with the paddleblade, the D-11 would be way faster and even climb better then our D-40, I'd wager.  I'd bet Widewing has some info on that. 
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Re: Why the D40?
« Reply #13 on: August 25, 2008, 02:13:28 PM »
D-11's were all fitted with water incjection at the plant, and at that time the paddle-blade had not come into service yet. 

The D-15 saw the wing pylon introduction, and I believe the paddleblade prop.  Props were sent out to groups to give as many Jugs as they could the paddle prop. 

If fitted with the paddleblade, the D-11 would be way faster and even climb better then our D-40, I'd wager.  I'd bet Widewing has some info on that. 


D-11 was the first model that had water injection that was controlled automatically, versus the D-4/D-5 versions that the pilot manually adjusted the amount of water that was used by the injection system.

D-15 was the first model that had plumbing and pylons for wing drop tanks and wing bombs.

D-22/23 was the first model to have the paddle-blade prop installed at the factory.
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Re: Why the D40?
« Reply #14 on: August 25, 2008, 02:20:42 PM »
D-11 was the first model that had water injection that was controlled automatically, versus the D-4/D-5 versions that the pilot manually adjusted the amount of water that was used by the injection system.

D-15 was the first model that had plumbing and pylons for wing drop tanks and wing bombs.

D-22/23 was the first model to have the paddle-blade prop installed at the factory.

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