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Offline 1Boner

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Re: bravery or cowardness
« Reply #30 on: August 25, 2008, 10:32:15 AM »
If you're in a 110G you BETTER head-on every target that points its nose at you.

Otherwise you're pretty much dead meat.

Let's be honest... I don't CARE if somebody is a total HO dweeb, they land 6 kills in a 110 you know it was a major feat just to stay alive to GET those kills.

It's like HOing in a P-39D... might be their only chance against 90% of the planeset.

That said, unless I'm totally outclassed by every plane in the fight (i.e. flying a 110) I find HOing puts you in a bad position AFTER the HO, so generally wiser to try avoiding it if you can.



I've fallen prey to more than a few 110 jockeys who might tend to disagree with the 1st part of your statement.




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Re: bravery or cowardness
« Reply #31 on: August 25, 2008, 10:38:57 AM »
Yes, but even IL2s can get kills on fighters ;)

Even Bostons can out-turn C2s if the C2 doesn't understand what's going on ;)

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Re: bravery or cowardness
« Reply #32 on: August 25, 2008, 10:59:31 AM »
I guess some fish just like the taste of a good metal hook  :rofl
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Re: bravery or cowardness
« Reply #33 on: August 25, 2008, 11:05:28 AM »
I suck therefore I HO :rock
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« Reply #34 on: August 25, 2008, 11:22:21 AM »
I guess some fish just like the taste of a good metal hook  :rofl
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Re: bravery or cowardness
« Reply #35 on: August 25, 2008, 11:46:35 AM »
I suck therefore I HO :rock


i suck, therefore i don't. i don't like sucking. it sucks to suck. i want to get better, so i don't ho.....except for yesterday when yaks kept tryin to ho my seafire with his zeke......... :D
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Re: bravery or cowardness
« Reply #36 on: August 25, 2008, 11:54:43 AM »
So, lemme get the general consensus here-

Shootin' somebody in the back is "brave", and confronting your opponent on fairly "even" terms face to face is "cowardly"?

It seems things have changed over the years in that respect...

 :D

Something tells me discussions including the terms "bravery" and "cowardice" won't apply well to AH.

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Re: bravery or cowardness
« Reply #37 on: August 25, 2008, 11:56:53 AM »
May I please have a refund on the time I have wasted reading this post?
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Re: bravery or cowardness
« Reply #38 on: August 25, 2008, 12:11:14 PM »
I always Hoe on the first merge, people will insult me for it but i rather Hoe than avoid it allowing you on my six. I consider it a great act of bravery and courage along with making it a bit personal (which always causes him to up again). Its YOUR fault if you decide to head on a 110.


I think lack of skill is a better description you're looking for.


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Re: bravery or cowardness
« Reply #39 on: August 25, 2008, 12:21:38 PM »
I ho I ho its the only thing i know..your just pissed cause i won this ho, i ho.. i ho i ho i ho..i ho its the only thing i know, your wing blew off and down you go, i ho..i ho i ho i ho.

SING IT WITH ME!!

I HO..I HO..ITS THE ONLY THING I KNOW, your just pissed cause your wing poped off, and down..you go..you go.. you go.. you go.


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Re: bravery or cowardness
« Reply #40 on: August 25, 2008, 12:37:04 PM »
Skyguns go back and replace "HO" with "deflection shot". And then replace "vulch" with "base capping". THEN replace "gangbanging" with "going where the fight is". And THEN replace "pick and run" with "B&Z". Then replace "run like a girl" with "egress to rebuild advantage".

OK? Do all that and then we'll start over. :rofl
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Re: bravery or cowardness
« Reply #41 on: August 25, 2008, 12:52:02 PM »
It's so easy to avoid the HO and turn the tables, I figure that if I get HO'ed by a gun-heavy, hard-to-maneuver enemy like a 110, 190-A8, or IL2, then I had it coming.

But then again, I fly in a "No Whine" zone.

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Offline mtnman

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Re: bravery or cowardness
« Reply #42 on: August 25, 2008, 01:54:02 PM »
It's so easy to avoid the HO and turn the tables...
-Llama

Not picking on you AT ALL Llama, just going to give your words a perverted twist and relate them to the title of the thread (because it's fun, hehe!)  You're statement is convenient, that's all...

To avoid the HO is to avoid a direct confrontation, avoid the face-face conflict.  Cowardice?  Bravery?  I think it's closer to cowardice.

To avoid it and rely on your skill to maneuver into a position where you can kill with less danger to yourself, and a higher percentage of success seems even more cowardly...

Even though I'm a "dodge the HO and turn the tables" guy myself, it is (IMO) the more cowardly stance- ESPECIALLY if I believe my skills are superior to my opponent, and my chances of winning are IMO greater than his...  Possibly taking away his best/only chance to beat me (depending on his skill level, E-state, whatever...) and skewing the fight to a style where I have a distinct advantage seems smart, yes, but definately not "brave".

In reality (IMO) taking the HO is one of the few times in AH where it's even remotely possible to display anything remotely like "bravery" in the game.  Only two others come to mind- attacking bombers from the low six position, trying to kill them before they kill the CV (or whatever); and flying into a swarm to be surely ganged and picked apart, when you are in a position to avoid doing so (willingly getting ganged, as opposed to foolishly getting ganged...)

What is bravery?  It surely isn't accepting a challenge (fight) you think you're going to win...

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Re: bravery or cowardness
« Reply #43 on: August 25, 2008, 02:16:16 PM »
Not picking on you AT ALL Llama, just going to give your words a perverted twist and relate them to the title of the thread (because it's fun, hehe!)  You're statement is convenient, that's all...

To avoid the HO is to avoid a direct confrontation, avoid the face-face conflict.  Cowardice?  Bravery?  I think it's closer to cowardice.

To avoid it and rely on your skill to maneuver into a position where you can kill with less danger to yourself, and a higher percentage of success seems even more cowardly...ACTUALLY, EVEN IF YOU'RE MUCH BETTER THAN THE GUY you're fighting, by NOT ho'ng, you leave him the oppurtunity for a lucky shot, that could end the fight for you....by maneuvering for a good kill shot, you're taking more of a risk, thus, that is less cowardly than ho'ing.

Even though I'm a "dodge the HO and turn the tables" guy myself, it is (IMO) the more cowardly stance- ESPECIALLY if I believe my skills are superior to my opponent, and my chances of winning are IMO greater than his...  Possibly taking away his best/only chance to beat me (depending on his skill level, E-state, whatever...) and skewing the fight to a style where I have a distinct advantage seems smart, yes, but definately not "brave".

In reality (IMO) taking the HO is one of the few times in AH where it's even remotely possible to display anything remotely like "bravery" in the game.  Only two others come to mind- attacking bombers from the low six position,attacking bombers from the low six position is in no perversion of the word, brave. that is pretty much blatently obviously, and in-excusably stupid.


 trying to kill them before they kill the CV (or whatever); and flying into a swarm to be surely ganged and picked apart, when you are in a position to avoid doing so (willingly getting ganged, as opposed to foolishly getting ganged...)otherwise known as a furball....or were you meaning you alone with 5 or 6 cons? i drop into furballs all the time, and die promptly....but i learn a bit each time. i drop into a max of 3 cons if i'm alone....still die fairly quickly, but i learn a bit as i am.

What is bravery?  It surely isn't accepting a challenge (fight) you think you're going to win...

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Re: bravery or cowardness
« Reply #44 on: August 25, 2008, 02:26:02 PM »
I think you are brave to openly act as a coward.  :O

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