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Offline Gixer

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Re: seafire vs. bf110
« Reply #60 on: August 26, 2008, 08:38:02 PM »
If it was Dastrdly in the 110 he turns that thing inside out. Don't be surprised if he can hang with your spitfire and put you in the tower, nothing against your flying. It's just he's the best 110 stick by far I've ever come across and always a  challenging fight.

There are two planes I always have far more difficulty then any other to force an over shoot in rolls. Corsairs with their gamey flaps and landing gear tricks. And Dastrdly in his 110 though unlike the F4 his only resource is skill and a lizard watching over his shoulder.


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Re: seafire vs. bf110
« Reply #61 on: August 26, 2008, 08:42:09 PM »

 Corsairs with their gamey flaps and landing gear tricks.
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personally, i never drop the gear in a hog... flap, otoh...  what really makes those flaps effective as they are, is the....

rudder...  and it's a huge honking rudder...

and that's the thing about AH2.. or IL2 or WB or whatever.. we're allowed the luxury of fully exploring a planes capabilities, we don't die... so we learn from our mistakes... ideally

this is also why so many "purists" and "by the numbers" poepl have a hard time wrapping their heads about perceived FM fidelity, or lack thereof.  we do stuff that was maybe never even done in RL, certainly not with the frequency in which we can, and against the prevalent wisdom of the day.  it's a lot different when your life is on the line.
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Re: seafire vs. bf110
« Reply #62 on: August 26, 2008, 09:04:46 PM »
oooh snap...  also seems someone is flying with the stall limiter enabled...

lol, wana see a 110 spin to the ground?  Just make me turn in one lol
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Re: seafire vs. bf110
« Reply #63 on: August 26, 2008, 09:15:27 PM »
lol, wana see a 110 spin to the ground?  Just make me turn in one lol

yeah, they have a nasty flat spin.
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Re: seafire vs. bf110
« Reply #64 on: August 26, 2008, 09:23:02 PM »
Thanks BnZ.  On the fifth day I was told to turn the stall limiter off.  I saw it early on but wasn't sure what it's purpose was, although the title is plain as day.

oooooooooo please tell us you're not serious :uhoh
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Re: seafire vs. bf110
« Reply #65 on: August 26, 2008, 09:48:15 PM »
His IL2 thread is much more interesting of a read than this one.  I would say he made his mind up and will be flying IL2 at the end of the month.  Was funny to read that there are not many Europeans playing AH?! :huh  The thing about AH being made by Texans for Texas was good too... :lol
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Re: seafire vs. bf110
« Reply #66 on: August 26, 2008, 09:56:20 PM »
http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m/4631027186/p/3

oooooo, I see an AH horde a-comin'!

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Re: seafire vs. bf110
« Reply #67 on: August 26, 2008, 10:01:28 PM »
LOL guess who had stall limiter on and couldn't figure out why it would "mush".  :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
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Re: seafire vs. bf110
« Reply #68 on: August 26, 2008, 10:51:47 PM »
I read this topic.

There are some people out there who think the "harder" a WWII flight sim is the more realistic it is. Il2 caters well to that. This is not necessarily the case. I've never read a WWII pilot saying "I couldn't stop my plane's nose from bouncing up and down" or "I poured the whole 9 yards into that Fw-190 and nothing happened." That they think the gunnery in AHII is too easy and involves a "hit bubble" is telling.

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Re: seafire vs. bf110
« Reply #69 on: August 26, 2008, 11:16:33 PM »
DA...DA...DA :D

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Re: seafire vs. bf110
« Reply #70 on: August 26, 2008, 11:45:24 PM »
Well, the price is right.  You can buy IL-2 1946 for $10.  I'm going to try it just to see what all the hype is about. :D

I read this topic.

There are some people out there who think the "harder" a WWII flight sim is the more realistic it is. Il2 caters well to that. This is not necessarily the case. I've never read a WWII pilot saying "I couldn't stop my plane's nose from bouncing up and down" or "I poured the whole 9 yards into that Fw-190 and nothing happened." That they think the gunnery in AHII is too easy and involves a "hit bubble" is telling.

Come on now, we all know the bad characteristics of aircraft are dumbed down a bit in AH.  Real flight is like great sex while AH is like talking about it.
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Re: seafire vs. bf110
« Reply #71 on: August 26, 2008, 11:49:53 PM »
Well, the price is right.  You can buy IL-2 1946 for $10.  I'm going to try it just to see what all the hype is about. :D

at least go in with an open mind...


disclaimer:  never tried il-2.. probably never will <the playerbase seems so anal retentive and narrow minded, an opinion formed over the years, not just this thread>

to each their own <shrug>

and since this will prolly get locked anyway...

I found this quote from the linked thread to be, well... ironic at the least.

"AH is no where near the level of IL2 when it comes to flight modeling. You should realize that many sims of the day made flying hard because they lacked knowledge in the department so they favored "hard" assuming it meant more real. Its simply false."
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Re: seafire vs. bf110
« Reply #72 on: August 27, 2008, 12:03:59 AM »
His IL2 thread is much more interesting of a read than this one.  I would say he made his mind up and will be flying IL2 at the end of the month.  Was funny to read that there are not many Europeans playing AH?! :huh  The thing about AH being made by Texans for Texas was good too... :lol

I loved this comment from him:
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Interestingly, the AH fellow I ran into was not handling his bird well. I'm average and I was flying circles around him which he noted. I think you have something there about yanking and banking.

LOL!  I can't imagine anyone that doesn't have a grasp of ACM would be able to fly circles around anyone.


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Re: seafire vs. bf110
« Reply #73 on: August 27, 2008, 12:05:06 AM »
at least go in with an open mind...


disclaimer:  never tried il-2.. probably never will <the playerbase seems so anal retentive and narrow minded, an opinion formed over the years, not just this thread>

to each their own <shrug>

I am an IL-2 player. I have been lurking the AH boards for a few months now. I have a similar opinion of this community.

It is most likely due to unfamiliarity of culture.

Just a thought.

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Re: seafire vs. bf110
« Reply #74 on: August 27, 2008, 12:07:51 AM »
I am an IL-2 player. I have been lurking the AH boards for a few months now. I have a similar opinion of this community.

It is most likely due to unfamiliarity of culture.

Just a thought.

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