Russia recognizes independence of of S. Osetia and Abkhazia...

[mg1942]

... and West and US condemned the decision

Why should USA be angry?  We are freedom-loving nation and US usually supports independence movements across the world.  It would be hypocritical of us if we don't recognize S. Osetia and Abkhazia as new independent nations.

[crockett]

... and West and US condemned the decision

Why should USA be angry?  We are freedom-loving nation and US usually supports independence movements across the world.  It would be hypocritical of us if we don't recognize S. Osetia and Abkhazia as new independent nations.

That's like saying the US would support Utah in trying to break away and become a independent nation, then claiming we don't believe in freedom if we don't let them.  S. Osetia and Abkhazia are part of Georgia, Russia is only "recognizing" them as independent nations because Russia is playing games and it's in Russia's best interests to cause economic problems and help to destabilize Georgia.

Russia doesn't give a crap about the people there or their freedoms. Russia is only interested in gobbling up more territory and gas & oil rights.

[Maniac]

... and West and US condemned the decision

Why should USA be angry?  We are freedom-loving nation and US usually supports independence movements across the world.  It would be hypocritical of us if we don't recognize S. Osetia and Abkhazia as new independent nations.

Georgia is an Ally of the USA, and a soveregin nation at that. Russia provoked a military responce from Georgia in order to execute a preplanned invasion and occupation of Georgia. A clear violation of international rights. In order to send a message to the West/Nato and their neighbouring countrys. Now Russia wants to rip S. Osetia and Abkhazia from Georgia aswell.

You want your country to support these actions?

[321BAR]

Georgia is an Ally of the USA, and a soveregin nation at that. Russia provoked a military responce from Georgia in order to execute a preplanned invasion and occupation of Georgia. A clear violation of international rights. In order to send a message to the West/Nato and their neighbouring countrys. Now Russia wants to rip S. Osetia and Abkhazia from Georgia aswell.

You want your country to support these actions?

Not to forget that this war let Poland seal the deal on the installation on more missile sites to defend against Russia  , and i think Russia also wants these two provinces to believe Russia has a good interest in them

[Elfie]

Not to forget that this war let Poland seal the deal on the installation on more missile sites to defend against Russia  Hehe!

From what I've read, those missile sites are to protect against future, potential launches from the Middle East, not Russia.

[FrodeMk3]

Not to forget that this war let Poland seal the deal on the installation on more missile sites to defend against Russia  , and i think Russia also wants these two provinces to believe Russia has a good interest in them

I don't think that the Russians' intended that...IMHO, they figured to scare the other nations', such as Poland and The Ukraine, out of any missile deals. It backfired.

[croduh]

That's like saying the US would support Utah in trying to break away and become a independent nation, then claiming we don't believe in freedom if we don't let them.  S. Osetia and Abkhazia are part of Georgia, Russia is only "recognizing" them as independent nations because Russia is playing games and it's in Russia's best interests to cause economic problems and help to destabilize Georgia.

Russia doesn't give a crap about the people there or their freedoms. Russia is only interested in gobbling up more territory and gas & oil rights.

I know I'm being trolled heavily here ( ) but have to say this - Kosovo.

[Hangtime]

I know I'm being trolled heavily here ( ) but have to say this - Kosovo.

Nope. Show me the corpses.

Russia can 'recognize' NYC and Kalifornia too  (we do have corpses) and it'll be just as valid. The UN and NATO created Kosovo. Not the US or Russia.

[DREDIOCK]

From what I've read, those missile sites are to protect against future, potential launches from the Middle East, not Russia.

True.
But if they weren't before. you can sure bet your bippy they are now

[scot12b]

I smell commies 

[Elfie]

True.
But if they weren't before. you can sure bet your bippy they are now

Apparently the missiles can defend Poland from Russian missiles, but there is only 10 of them so it would be very easy to overwhelm the system.

[Hangtime]

Apparently the missiles can defend Poland from Russian missiles, but there is only 10 of them so it would be very easy to overwhelm the system.

And any attack on polish soil will be regarded as an attack on our own soil.  That's what the Poles insisted on... and they got it.

Along with the main deal, the two nations signed a so-called "declaration on strategic cooperation," which is to deepen their military and political partnership.

It includes a mutual commitment to come to each other's assistance immediately if one is under attack _ enhancing existing obligations both have as NATO members.

The declaration also was accompanied by a promise from the U.S. to help modernize Poland's armed forces and to place a battery of Patriot missiles there by 2012.

Rice said the deal "will help both the alliance and Poland and the United States respond to the coming threats."

Poland and the United States spent a year and a half in formal talks, which snagged in the final phase on Poland's demands for the Patriot missiles and other points.

[Yeager]

I wonder if borodas liver finally gave out 

[KgB]

Russia provoked a military responce from Georgia in order to execute a preplanned invasion and occupation of Georgia. A clear violation of international rights.

Georgia launched attack on South Osetia,and oh my God they fired back!How could they?No flowers for Georgians?
Provoked?Violation of international rights?
USA was provoked to invade Somalia,Iraq,Afghanistan,Kosovo,Serbia i suppose eh?
Ahh,i know you were kidding.
Funny guy you:)

[Angus]

S-Ossetia seems to want the old "bear" more than Georgia. Maybe out of fear.  It's got no chance to stand on it's own legs. It's mostly living on subsistence farming and tunnel fee (between Russia and Georgia). The size of the country is very small (3.900 sq kilometres, - a little bigger than Luxemburg, and 1/25th of Iceland) and the inhabitants were some 100.000 (?), and unlike those mentioned, S-Ossetia is not sitting between economically well-off blocks. Greenland and the Faroe islands would be vastly better off as independent nations IMHO, with their odd 40.000-50.000 souls for the sheer reason of natural resources, yet these are not independent yet....
My guess is that they get gobbled by the old bear....