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[Hornet33]

What? Inconvenienced? Yer kidding, right?

My kids are mine.. not the schools. I wanna take 'em out to go fishin', shootin, to a doctors office or a ball game, I'd love to see 'em try and stop me. Not only did I sign my kid out when I wanted, I've never even offered an explanation as to why.. and when asked they got 'none of your business'.

Gawdamned commie socialist nanny metrosexual pinheads...... messin with everything!

No one has said you can't do it, but the law says the school doesn't have to give your kid an excussed absence unless you provide a legitimate reason and prior notification. Taking them out on a whim to go fishing is only hurting their grades and it would be your fault, not the schools. That's the entire point.

[lazs2]

mojava.. where did I say that a parent couldn't/shouldn't take his kid out for any reason he wanted?

He just can't get it EXCUSED unless it is a good reason.  not in a school that other people are paying to have his kid go to that is....

I hate public schools and taxes but... us.. each and everyone of us is paying for the little twit to go.   The reason being, presumably,  that he will get a good education and be an asset and worth all the damn money that us.. not you.. not the parent.. all of us.. are spending on him.. it is our money not the parents.

He can still take the little brat out.  He just won't get it excused.. if his kid gets enough unexcused aabseces.. then he won't graduate.. 

Now.. in my case.. I put my grand daughter in catholic school...  I can damn well take her out any time I want for any reason I want or.. no frigging reason at all..  I am the one paying the bills and if she has to repeat a year then so be it.. it is my money.

If you can't see the difference then I don't know how to explain it to you any better.

If you want the state to be your mommy then quit acting all upset when it treats you like it is...  your mommy.

VOUCHERS.  HOME SCHOOLING.    PAY FOR IT YOURSELF YA LEECH.

Those are the options or.. play by whatever nanny rules come down the pike that the people who are paying your bills for you decide you should play by.

[SkyRock]

No I'm not. If Shaniquas mom wants to pull her out of school for an appointment to get her nails done, the priciple has every reason to deny it, and call it an unexcused absense. If she going to the dentists to get her yearly check up and teeth cleaned, it's an excused absense and everything is good as long as mom calls in advance and lets the school know.

And I didn't pull my excample out of my butt. My girlfriend is a teacher and had this situation come up last year and guess what....mom was pissed because Karen (my girlfriend) didn't give her an excussed absence, gave her a zero on her homework she missed and didn't let her make that homework up. To hear Karen tell it, moms reasoning was "My baby girl gots to look good and if she be needin her nails done then you's best excuse da absence so she can be gettin her nails done!!" Karnes and her principles response was "Don't think so."

That is what this law is trying to prevent. The kids are supposed to be in school. The schools have a legal obligation to make sure those kids are in school if enrolled, and too many parents let their kids walk all over them and the parents are contributing to the less than stellar education of their own kids.  If you don't like the law you have an option. Home school your own kids. If your going to enroll your kids in school though that means you as a parent HAVE to follow the rules as well i.e. be held responsible, but damn people really hate that one.

If I take my kid to the dentist, and I tell them in advance, with this law, she can just plainly decide not to give my child and excused absence.

[SkyRock]

wait a minute...

Are we talking about EXCUSED absence?   the parent can take the kid out on any old whim or mistake of judgement or simple brain fart but...  if he wants to get the thing excused... he either has to have prior approval or come up with some documentation?

This is a real non issue.    If you want to take the kid fishing on a whim then do it.  don't be upset tho when they don't excuse it.   If you just forgot the dentist.. what is the big deal?  the dentist will write a note.

I am starting to understand it now.. the schools get money for every day they have your kid.. any absence is money out of their pocket..  they want to make it unatractive for parents to take their kids out of school on a whim.

In any case..  it is just one more reason for vouchers and a voucher system.    You don't like your schools policies?  vote with your pocketbook.. enroll the kid in another school.

I would love to see public schools shut down or have to compete.

the problem with this little gem is the fact that if the principal denies you excused absences on doctor and dentist visits it could land you in court, or jail.

[SkyRock]

just to add some pepper to the stew, this year they also added tag registrations to the mortgage and electric bill that is required to get your child in school.  If you don't own a car, you have to go before a hearing.

[SlapShot]

just to add some pepper to the stew, this year they also added tag registrations to the mortgage and electric bill that is required to get your child in school.  If you don't own a car, you have to go before a hearing.

And you don't understand why they are doing that ?

[Donzo]

just to add some pepper to the stew, this year they also added tag registrations to the mortgage and electric bill that is required to get your child in school.  If you don't own a car, you have to go before a hearing.

That's a DeSoto county school board policy...once again what does this have to do with Republicans and NCLB?

[SkyRock]

And you don't understand why they are doing that ?

If you do not have a car, you should not be forced to go before the court and explain yourself just so you kid can go to school.

[SkyRock]

That's a DeSoto county school board policy...once again what does this have to do with Republicans and NCLB?

Desoto county is Red, bro, bigtime. 

[Donzo]

Desoto county is Red, bro, bigtime. 

That local gov.....still a strech to blame all of this on NCLB.

[Sonicblu]

government to tell them what to do?  I think thats what I hear from republicans.  What if you scheduled a dentist appointment for you daughter and needed to check her out of school. 

This is a new law in the state of Mississippi:

According to State Law 37-13-91, a scheduled medical or dental appointment must have PRIOR APPROVAL of the principal or his/her designee in order to be excused, except in the case of an emergency for school year 2008-09.  Upon returning to school a proper excuse must be presented from the attending physician/dentist.

So I have to ask the principal and get her permission to take my daughter to the dentist. 

the republican NCLB hard at work.

Hmm I would like to see that it was the republicans that worked to pass that one and id like to see the vote record in the State house Senate.
Sound like a liberal deal to me.


Anyone that buys into the state teaching your kids is a product of the re-education dept anyway.
Do it yourself.

[Hornet33]

the problem with this little gem is the fact that if the principal denies you excused absences on doctor and dentist visits it could land you in court, or jail.

Man I hope that happens to you and I get to sit on the jury, because the principle would have his butt in a sling. Do you HONESTLY believe that a principle is going to tell a parent "No, you may not take little Sally out of school to go see the dentist and have the absense excussed."  Dude one phone call to the school board and that priciple is looking for a new job and that's as far as it would end up going and you know it.

I do however believe that principle would be right to tell a parent, "Sorry but if your taking little Sally out of school because it's the opening day of fishing season and she just really wants to go, well that will be counted as an unexcussed absense and will reflect poorly on her transcript, but that's up to you."

Understand that laws are for the most part based on what most reasonable people think is right. Bad laws get over turned and tossed, good laws stay around longer. Seeing as this law is over 30 years old, must be some solid reasoning behind it.

[Sonicblu]

just to add some pepper to the stew, this year they also added tag registrations to the mortgage and electric bill that is required to get your child in school.  If you don't own a car, you have to go before a hearing.

Remember you vaccination records Sky

The most precious things you have  been intrusted are you childred. Home school them. 
Problem solved.
I feel bad for you guys that would let you kids be brainwashed in a reeducation camp. Not to mention all the liberal junk that gets rammed into their brains. The choice is yours you turned them over to the State what do you expect.

[Anaxogoras]

This thread is frigg'n hilarious.  WTG skyrock.

Common sense and the rights of the individual: 1
Partisan Republican ideologues: 0

[SkyRock]

That local gov.....still a strech to blame all of this on NCLB.

Do you teach?  If you did, you would completely understand why it is NCLB.  Before NCLB, we taught kids with the intention of teaching them how to learn, now, many are forced to teach for standardized test scores.   Money is the all central issue for every school now, and test scores(at all costs) along with attendance(at all costs) are the money winners.  Everything changed and not all for the better.