Palin warned...

[SkyRock]

The straws are fewer yet you're still grasping. 

poll:

Welfare      -     for /against
abortion     -     for/against

u scared to represent?

[Bodhi]

A slippery slope, skyrock.  Most here won't see anything wrong with it, they're so blinded by her legs.

Palin is a smokescreen behind which McCain is simply avoiding the issues at hand for the next 52 days.  Pretty much everything thats come out of the McCain camp the past 72 hours has been all lies, and easily disproved ones at that.   They're not even trying, just doing the Rove plan of "throw it all against the wall and see what sticks".
A sad shame, not one serious discourse into any sort of position by the GOP candidate. 

Please prove what the McCain camp said that was a lie....

[Shifty]

Not at all.


I'm for limited welfare, if you're of able mind and body yet to too lazy to work. I'm against it.

If you're handicaped in any form and unable to work and support yourself or family. I'm for it

Abortion...

I feel a woman must make that choice for herself. I don't like the thought of aborting a fetus, but I believe it's the womans right to choose.

So exactly what does your question have to do with Palin taking a guys livelyhood??

[WWhiskey]

Who Am I?
I am under 45 years old,
I love the outdoors,
I hunt,
I am a Republican reformer,
I have taken on the Republican Party establishment,
I have many children,
I have a spot on the national ticket as vice president with less than two years in the governor's office.
Did you guess?


















I am Teddy Roosevelt in 1900

[sluggish]

poll:

Welfare      -     for /against
abortion     -     for/against

u scared to represent?

HOLY HIJACK MY OWN THREAD BATMAN....

against
against

[SkyRock]

HOLY HIJACK MY OWN THREAD BATMAN....

against
against

So, if people who are to socially malfunctioned to be stable enough to feed themselves have children, what do we do with the children they produce?

[Kaw1000]

Funny how all the conservatives in here always whine about welfare the most, yet never say anything about how it has helped our country.  I can't stand hearing about someone milking the welfare system no more than anyone else who pays taxes and such, but there are worse milkers out there.  Defense contractors have stolen more money than welfare milkers could ever steal.  Besides, most who oppose welfare also are pro-life, so what is it?  You want the children to be born, but you don't want to help take care of them if they are hungry?  Blame their parents, tell them to go to work or they get nothing, then if they dont get a job, watch the children starve to death, seems to go against the Pro-life doctrine.

I'd like to see a vote for or against welfare, no wriggling, either you are for it or against it as it is.  It would be funny to see repubs vote yes to save their jobs.

Skyrock with all due respect..this thing about children being born and we should take care of them? what are you thinking...you want the goverment
and tax payers to pay for the irresponsiblity of others??  You must be on the love muffin side of the political world.

[Phaser11]

Blame their parents, tell them to go to work or they get nothing, then if they dont get a job, watch the children starve to death, seems to go against the Pro-life doctrine.

I'd like to see a vote for or against welfare, no wriggling, either you are for it or against it as it is.  It would be funny to see repubs vote yes to save their jobs.

Rock,
 YES YES YES. It is the parents, the chrildren are starving NOW even thought the parent (s) are getting welfare checks. Also I am not talking about the parents that have lost ther job or are really looking but cannot find one.

No job is beneath me.
When my children are hungry, I’ll do any job out there as I believe you would also, but there are many and I mean many that would not.

Should the children suffer because there parents are freeloaders?  THEY ARE SUFFERING NOW. Would more money help? It never has in the past, you can tell that because now they want more.

Who will stand up and say enough?  McCain? Obama? Congress?  You? Me?
No one has yet. Oh they all talk about it, but there you have it.

Peace

[Kaw1000]

We have the fattest poor people in the world. No one in the country dies from hunger.
We have  many free stores,churches that feed folks and many people that
donate to feed our people.

[lazs2]

skyrock.. please be a little honest.. you are in a panic just like every other liberal over Palin out rock staring your rock star.

If Palin has no substance.. then osamabama is an empty suit and a voice.   The reason she resonates is because people can identify more with a hockey mom and small town mayor and gun owner than with some slick chicago lawyer and "organizer" who goes into the ghetto and starts a bunch of welfare programs that end up in corruption and making the area worse.

No..  I am not for welfare.   I am against.. it would be hard to get rid of at this point.. it was a mistake.. just as looking the other way at illegals has created a problem that will cause great pain for many no matter how it is solved.

The "caring socialism" creates the problems.. then asks..  "what can you do?"   about the mess they have created.

Welfare has created a mess that will take decades to fix even if we started now.   We have created a poor and dependent class with 3 or more generations of welfare dependent families.

We should be ashamed rather than trying to figure out how to "help" even more.

In this way.. and many others.. I think liberals are evil. I believe that they are destroyers of hope and opportunity and they really deserve to have their elitist smug butts kicked.

lazs

[SkyRock]

Rock,
 

 Would more money help? It never has in the past, you can tell that because now they want more.

I can only say for what I've seen.  The kids I teach are all titleI, that means their parents all either below poverty line or workingpoor.   I hear them talk about government cheese like it was rib-eye steak, or bologna like it was prime rib.  I have a 1/2 sister who has been living off ovt here whole life, mind of an 8 yo, health problems and the likes, I know for certain her daughters lived off govt cheese and rice and the likes into their teen years when I let them come live with me and fed them properly.  I don't like havving to pay for people abusing the system, but that goes for every branch of government, like I said earlier, defense contractors charging $195 for a hammer and such, it's all relative, and there will always be crooks and users.  I'd rather see the kids eating though.

[lazs2]

I would also like to add... 

skyrock.. do you know how many people "starved to death" during the great depression in the United States..  we will not count those who were insane or lost in the wilderness.. just those who starved to death because they were poor and there was no welfare.

The exact same amount would starve today if we got rid of welfare... plus..  they might even cut the birth rate to one or less per non working "family".

lazs

[SkyRock]

you want the goverment
and tax payers to pay for the irresponsiblity of others?? 

Who will then?  let them die by starvation?  I am willing to bet that you don't have an answer just always blame welfare on all the woes of our nation.  We pay other countries billions in aid because of their irresponsibility, yet let our own citizen children die of malnutrition because of deadbeat parents?

[Dos Equis]

Here is the Troopergate memo itself:

http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/trooperletter20080910.pdf

If a memo like this surfaced for Obama, it would be the end of his run and he would fall 20 points in the poll. Palin - not so much. I like the end of the memo where the attorney warns her to watch out for wolves.

[lazs2]

skyrock.. why don't the fathers of these kids get a job?  it would seem that with both parents working at even a minimum wage job.. or two jobs each.. they would indeed be able to afford rib eye steak like...

Well like the welfare moms here in front of me who load the cart with steak and ho hos and chips and soda and every crap snack item in the store and then pay for it with a credit card.. the 'credit card' is just a version of food stamps...

The reason they use a card now is because we don't want to embarrass them when they are pigging out at the store on our dime..  we want to make sure that welfare is as attractive to as many young women as possible so that they will breed more socialists.

lazs