Palin warned...

[lazs2]

"not stable enough to feed tehir own children."

Oh.. this is getting good...  how did they become that way and why are more and more of them joining the ranks every day.

Put out bird feeders in your yard.   keep em stocked.. see how it works.  once you have flocks and flocks of birds who don't even know how to do anything but breed and eat.. 

quit stocking the feeders.

You created the problem.

No one starved before welfare..  the rate of illigitimate births was low..  now.. even with your pro abortion stance.. it is ten times higher and going higher every year.

Use your head for something other than a place for your hat.

lazs

[SkyRock]

Socialism has created a mess and now you ask how I should clean it up?    It will not be easy..  you have created a class that has no skills except breeding and working the system for more.

lazs

We have never been a socialist country, just a country that saw it's own citizens jumping out of windows because their children were starving to death and they had no jobs to feed them.  Now, we have a broke catch net, and all you spew is hate and political rhetoric.

[SkyRock]

No one starved before welfare.. 


lazs

I would laugh but I think you are serious.

[lazs2]

skyrock.. please show me the stats on how many people starved to death before welfare and now.  While you are at it.. show me the illigitimacy rates for both times.

"we never had socialism"???   what the hell do you think your screwed up welfare system is then?

I am saying that it has made things worse..  you are not saying anything to disprove that..  you are proving my point by showing all the misery it has produced.

I do see where you are coming from tho.. you are a teacher.. you are used to such convoluted thinking.. your ilk has destroyed education in this country and all you can do is scream that we throw more money at it.

You made toast out of the school systems and then ask what I am gonna do to fix it.

I would get rid of welfare slowly step by step (and add vouchers to the school system)

First step would be workfare. they can drag their fat bellybutton to the city parks and streets and clean up the place.

Next.. I would not pay for any child born out of wedlock past the first.

I would put the shame back in getting welfare instead of the pride too.. no more credit cards..  a big 8x10 dayglow food stamp booklet and a welfare isle at every store where only nutritious foods could be bought,

lazs

[Donzo]

Skyrock....if you think that Americans have a responsibility to feed children, do they also have the responsibility to take crappy foods away from them?

I mean junk food is bad for their health...if I see a kid woofing down some Twinkies and a Coke, should I stop them from eating it for the greater good?






(cue up the "I would laugh but I think you are serious." response)

[TwentyFo]

What ever happened to being neighborly? What ever happened to volunteering to help someone in need?


Laz....you cannot say that you have never benefited from gov't program.

[sluggish]

Don't dodge the question like a coward, what responsibility as an american do you have towards starving american children?
You seem so insulted that part of your tax money helps feed starving children, so how do you feel about part of your tax money being used right now to feed starving IRAQi children?

Most definately if the gubment allowed me to keep some of the estimated 50% - 60% of my HARD EARNED INCOME that they take away from me every year I would donate even more than I do now to the cause of MY CHOICE.

Americans and conservatives are not the heartless priklers you make them out to be.  We don't give as much because, thanx to our gubment we're already stretched to the max.  Plus, many are less anxious to give when they see that gubment doing it for them.

As far as Iraq goes, we as a nation have an obligation to fix what we have broken.

Abortion is murder.

[lazs2]

or maybe...  should I do everything in my power to make sure that before someone becomes a parent that they have the skills and resources to at least make a fair shot at raising that kid instead of just telling them "congrats.. you won the baby lotto.. sit home and enjoy and reel in the "free" stuff."

many are using babies as a way to get out of the crap welfare house they were raised in.

You liberal socialists are creating the problem and you want me to somehow clean it up without hurting anyones feelings.

you are the merchants of misery and should be flogged.

lazs

[moot]

What ever happened to being neighborly? What ever happened to volunteering to help someone in need?


Laz....you cannot say that you have never benefited from gov't program.

That's not the point.  You're once more trolling the demo party line rather than arguing the real issues.  You're no better than all the dilettante MSM anchors repeating all the retarded impertinent gossip that'll best grab ears but not brains.  You're part of the anti american problem, the problem of divising america between two bullpoop parties rather than seeing to the heart of the matter and getting things done constructively, efficiently, impartialy.
You're a masking lemming.

[lazs2]

twenty fo..   I will take every cent I can back from the government that stole it from me.  I would rather not tho.  I would rather they just not take it in the first place.

Besides the huge amount of my money that I will never get back that they have stolen tho... I have given more to people and helped more people than I bet you could even imagine.

I will not watch a person starve who does not deserve it..  I will not enable people tho.

You are creating the problem and are just too blind or stupid to see it.   

Do as I ask and look up the US before welfare and see how bad it was for families and kids.   then look at what you and your ilk have created and tell me with a straight face that you have the answer.

lazs

[TwentyFo]

twenty fo..   I will take every cent I can back from the government that stole it from me.  I would rather not tho.  I would rather they just not take it in the first place.
lazs

You were overpaid in the first place.

[SkyRock]

skyrock.. please show me the stats on how many people starved to death before welfare and now.  While you are at it.. show me the illigitimacy rates for both times.

"we never had socialism"???   what the hell do you think your screwed up welfare system is then?

I am saying that it has made things worse..  you are not saying anything to disprove that..  you are proving my point by showing all the misery it has produced.

I do see where you are coming from tho.. you are a teacher.. you are used to such convoluted thinking.. your ilk has destroyed education in this country and all you can do is scream that we throw more money at it.

You made toast out of the school systems and then ask what I am gonna do to fix it.

I would get rid of welfare slowly step by step (and add vouchers to the school system)

First step would be workfare. they can drag their fat bellybutton to the city parks and streets and clean up the place.

Next.. I would not pay for any child born out of wedlock past the first.

I would put the shame back in getting welfare instead of the pride too.. no more credit cards..  a big 8x10 dayglow food stamp booklet and a welfare isle at every store where only nutritious foods could be bought,

lazs

You are either non-realistic, or a nazi, which is it?

[moot]

You were overpaid in the first place.

Yet more partisan crap.  You want to know what's wrong with all these roadkill political debates?  Pertinent, factual arguments take a back seat to partisan face-saving roadkill.  Debate moderators censor according to their bias; public debates are reduced to meaningless tabloid roadkill; etc.. nothing gets done and everyone cheers at the token stare-downs.

[Kaw1000]

I would laugh, but I think you are serious.

Laugh all you want...show me where some child has died in the U.S from starvation...come on,
one newspaper article,anything, show me one child that has died because of starvation..prove me wrong!!

[moot]

You are either non-realistic, or a nazi, which is it?

Nazis were gone in ~'46.  If there's something wrong with Lazs' pov, it'll only be explicitely so when it's explicitely pointed out.  So let's hear it.  Specificaly, what's wrong with what he's saying?   Crowd pleasing ridicule and caricaturing isn't going to sub for cold hard facts.  Let's hear em...  Settle this once and for all.  Beating around the bush is a waste of time!