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109 G6
« on: September 16, 2008, 10:08:07 AM »
Decided to take one up for a spin last night, It isn't a bad Plane, by reading some of the accounts of it on the bbs, you would think your going into a val! It's actually ok, I know there's faster 109's around but the G6 will be my ENY ride from now on.
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Re: 109 G6
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2008, 10:11:28 AM »
Yup, when ENY gets really high, the 109G-6 is a great ride.  It's also a good perk-farmer when ENY is low.
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Re: 109 G6
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2008, 10:14:10 AM »
Slowest of the G/K models, heavier, turns worse, climbs worse. It had the worst guns package until recently, as well, being limited to a single 150-round option. Now that it has the 200-round option it is more viable as a fighter. It can be fun to fly, and has one of my favorite 109G skins available for use!

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Re: 109 G6
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2008, 10:23:19 AM »
Honestly guys, I didn't know what to expect when I first jumped in it, The anti 109 propaganda machine that lives on the bbs had done it's job well...
Took it up with 75% and a DT, cruised around 15k, dove on a 38 I wouldn't like to get too low and slow in it though, but overall I would recommend it to folks looking for a bit of fun and those who want to work that little bit harder for a kill.
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Re: 109 G6
« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2008, 10:25:53 AM »
It has about 30 minutes at full throttle with 100% fuel. I almost never take less than a full tank (but sometimes I leave the DT off).

It's capable of getting low and slow, but you have to be carefuly. You don't want to do it where you'll get picked. It climbs well compared to most planes, so if you can get low/slow, get your enemy to join you, then you can often climb over them (spiral climb or yo yo or any number of moves) to get a kill shot on them. You have 10 mins WEP, so don't slouch when you need it.

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Re: 109 G6
« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2008, 10:33:37 AM »
Took it up with 75% and a DT

Big mistake.  The rack for the drop tank slows you down even after you have released it.  You're probably used to skimping on fuel and taking drop tanks in allied aircraft, which don't suffer the same penalty because their racks for ordinance or drop tanks are usually there even if you don't load anything.
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Re: 109 G6
« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2008, 10:38:42 AM »
And that's exactly what happened last night Krusty, I'm sure you were below me about 10k at one point, was near a bish base but can't remember the base #. Looked behind me and there was half the Bish Airforce in the usuall 16's etc all fighting each other to claim the 109 prize, next time I'll stay higer and fly a bit smarter, it didn't put me off fying the G6 though, think I'll stick with it a bit, btw, had my convergence set for d300 for both weapons, not sure if I should have the Cannon on the same convergence as the MG's though.
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Re: 109 G6
« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2008, 10:41:51 AM »
And that's exactly what happened last night Krusty, I'm sure you were below me about 10k at one point, was near a bish base but can't remember the base #. Looked behind me and there was half the Bish Airforce in the usuall 16's etc all fighting each other to claim the 109 prize, next time I'll stay higer and fly a bit smarter, it didn't put me off fying the G6 though, think I'll stick with it a bit, btw, had my convergence set for d300 for both weapons, not sure if I should have the Cannon on the same convergence as the MG's though.

300 is a good convergence for the nose weapons, cannons and mg's.  I use 400, but it doesn't make much difference.  When that changes is if you load out the 30mm Mk108 on the G-14 or K-4, then you want to set the cannon to 200.
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Re: 109 G6
« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2008, 10:43:23 AM »
On the other hand, anaxo, the rack only slows you down a few miles per hour. Generally speaking, a few MPH won't really save your life. When running you need a significant speed advantage over the plane you are fleeing from, otherwise if it's just a fewmph difference the plane will stay with you and shoot you down. The benefit of the 109G6 is the acceleration and WEP, so it will be able to run at higher output for longer durations, after the enemy has run out.

Overall I don't sweat the 3-5 MPH the drop tank racks slow me down.

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Re: 109 G6
« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2008, 10:51:05 AM »
Overall I don't sweat the 3-5 MPH the drop tank racks slow me down.
Same here. In fact, I fight with the DT until I absolutely feel I need to get rid of it when flying 109s with the 20mm. When flying the K4, I usually drop it when I start shooting since the ammo doesn't last very long anyway.

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Re: 109 G6
« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2008, 10:54:30 AM »
Yes, but why take the drop tank if you don't have to, i.e. 100% fuel > 75% + dt.

In the 109K-4, I take a drop tank without much hesitation, same goes for the 190D-9.  In the slower aircraft, every mph counts when you undoubtedly run into a SpitXVI.

In general I'd say that the slower the 109 or 190, the greater penalty there is for taking a drop tank.
« Last Edit: September 16, 2008, 11:04:27 AM by Anaxogoras »
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Re: 109 G6
« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2008, 12:03:28 PM »
I do like the G6.  Performance-wise, its not on par with the rest of the G series, but I do feel as though it has much better stall characteristics than the 2 or the 14.

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Re: 109 G6
« Reply #12 on: September 16, 2008, 12:19:01 PM »
Yes, but why take the drop tank if you don't have to, i.e. 100% fuel > 75% + dt.

The only time I don't take a dt is base defense. Otherwise I have 100% + external (talking 109 here). The situation in the arena changes quickly and I prefer the option of changing my destination enroute if the fight moves rather than having to land and refuel or reup.

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Re: 109 G6
« Reply #13 on: September 16, 2008, 12:59:54 PM »
G6 is a mans plane. Regardless of performance i always think the G6 is a outstanding fighter regardless of performance charts. Just takes a skilled jagdflieger to understand it's characteristics.

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Re: 109 G6
« Reply #14 on: September 16, 2008, 06:39:27 PM »
I think overall, what I'm trying to say is that I fell into the trap of beliving all the Anti 109 propoganda RE: flight models etc and I was fully expecting a Val like performance from the G6, I was pleasantly surprised by it and I would recommend anyone  who has never tried it yet to take one up and have some fun in it. :)
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