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Offline WWhiskey

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Oil, $91.15 per barrel,get it while its hot!
« on: September 16, 2008, 09:36:20 PM »
 I'm just to lazy, or tired, to go back and look,but i was thinking it would be thanksgiving before it got this cheap again! I wonder how low it will go now?
  http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080916/oil_prices.html
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Re: Oil, $91.15 per barrel,get it while its hot!
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2008, 09:51:29 PM »
Not that their opinion is worth any more than mine, but an economist writing for Time magazine wrote a fairly lengthy article on why oil would eventually stabilize around $100/bbl.  I think that's a bit of a high estimate because I think the dollar will rebound with the new President no matter who wins the election, but there are some pretty smart people thinking that oil will stabilize at the price equivalent of $100 in today's dollars.

A big part of the issue is that the world knows that once the US gets rolling in one direction, we can be both pigheaded and very effective.  So oil producing nations are terrified that if the US really makes progress towards alternative energy and reducing dependence on foreign oil, there could be a sudden and drastic decrease in oil prices (against the dollar), which could spell economic disaster for some countries.  OPEC has already cut production in response to perceived lower demand and actual lower prices, in an effort to keep the bottom from dropping out of the oil markets.  I expect them to continue to cut production at least as fast as the US decreases foreign oil demand through alternative energy, lower market demand (people driving less), and conservation efforts.  A slowing US economy also drops industrial energy demands, and any global warming effects that decrease winter heating costs will also directly affect oil demand.

Expect to see more moves from Russia on energy prices as well, with their allies getting cheaper oil and natural gas, and efforts to work with OPEC to keep energy prices high for everyone else.  Russia's energy exports are both a source of income and an tool to be used to influence world events, so they have no reason to not use it as an instrument of national power.


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Re: Oil, $91.15 per barrel,get it while its hot!
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2008, 09:52:47 PM »
Euro tanking as well, dollar stronger this week
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Re: Oil, $91.15 per barrel,get it while its hot!
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2008, 10:07:09 PM »
Remember the fear mongers predicting, hell, they were hoping for $300 a barrel before the end of summer.

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Re: Oil, $91.15 per barrel,get it while its hot!
« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2008, 10:50:51 PM »
And gas here is still $4 a gallon

Surely the public isnt getting screwed  :rolleyes:

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Re: Oil, $91.15 per barrel,get it while its hot!
« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2008, 11:00:54 PM »
Heard on the radio the other day that the Suadis didn't want to cut production and weren't.

I figure they are afraid of an alternative fuel source being found if gas prices stay too high.
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Re: Oil, $91.15 per barrel,get it while its hot!
« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2008, 11:07:42 PM »
Euro tanking as well, dollar stronger this week

Where did you get that from?  Dollar is still only worth .75 of a euro last time I checked...5 seconds ago.
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Re: Oil, $91.15 per barrel,get it while its hot!
« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2008, 11:45:01 PM »
Where did you get that from?  Dollar is still only worth .75 of a euro last time I checked...5 seconds ago.


Take a look at the price of Gold and other commodities in the last month...  Falling like a stone.  That often means a strengthening dollar as fewer investors hedge against the dollar by buying commodities futures.  Gold dropped 15ish percent just in the last month as oil dropped over 30%, which tells me that some of the drop in oil prices is due to a strengthening dollar.

Or not... I didn't sleep in a holiday inn express last night so there is a chance I could be wrong :)

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Re: Oil, $91.15 per barrel,get it while its hot!
« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2008, 08:08:23 AM »
I'm just to lazy, or tired, to go back and look,but i was thinking it would be thanksgiving before it got this cheap again! I wonder how low it will go now?
  http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080916/oil_prices.html

also notice our gas is still well over $3.00? remember me saying before that we'd never see it below $3 again?
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Re: Oil, $91.15 per barrel,get it while its hot!
« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2008, 01:31:52 AM »
our fed screwed up so bad that our dollar will be even deeper in the crapper by weeks end.... look for oil to go higher, especially if the fed LOWERS the interest rate again!!!! thats what got us into this whole subprime mess anyway.  i dont think the fed should be able to bail out these financial institutions at our expense without at least a congressional vote.... time to break out the pitchforks and torches
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Re: Oil, $91.15 per barrel,get it while its hot!
« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2008, 06:19:46 AM »
our fed screwed up so bad that our dollar will be even deeper in the crapper by weeks end.... look for oil to go higher, especially if the fed LOWERS the interest rate again!!!! thats what got us into this whole subprime mess anyway.  i dont think the fed should be able to bail out these financial institutions at our expense without at least a congressional vote.... time to break out the pitchforks and torches
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Re: Oil, $91.15 per barrel,get it while its hot!
« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2008, 07:25:05 AM »
Remember the fear mongers predicting, hell, they were hoping for $300 a barrel before the end of summer.

Where are those donuts now?

ALSO REMEMBER everyone in other related threads stating that once oil was below $100/barrel, that gas would also drop to the $2.50 range again? where are they?
 it hasn't, and like i kept saying in those threads it won't. ever.
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Re: Oil, $91.15 per barrel,get it while its hot!
« Reply #12 on: September 18, 2008, 09:48:48 AM »
And gas here is still $4 a gallon

Surely the public isnt getting screwed  :rolleyes:



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Re: Oil, $91.15 per barrel,get it while its hot!
« Reply #13 on: September 18, 2008, 09:54:07 AM »
ALSO REMEMBER everyone in other related threads stating that once oil was below $100/barrel, that gas would also drop to the $2.50 range again? where are they?
 it hasn't, and like i kept saying in those threads it won't. ever.
$2.50?  No I think closer to $3.00
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Re: Oil, $91.15 per barrel,get it while its hot!
« Reply #14 on: September 18, 2008, 09:55:20 AM »
Oil price isn't the problem right now. 25% of the refineries in the US still have no power thanks to the hurricane.