Stall turn?

[a4944]

Hi All,
I've run into a 109K4 and 190A5 that both reversed very quick when using the vertical.  I assume this is some kind of stall turn but I could just be seeing it wrong.  Is there a technique to this?  I would like to give it a try. 

Thanks,
Venom

[choppit]

They might be using a Hammer head maneuver which is basically what you described. But I have heard about moves in K4s that match this description also. Also since when do we have K4s in the AVA 

[a4944]

They might be using a Hammer head maneuver which is basically what you described. But I have heard about moves in K4s that match this description also. Also since when do we have K4s in the AVA 

I've been here for awhile.  The K4 was during the BoA.  I think it was JimBean or a name similar flying it at the time.  So, how is it done?  Do you just kick in rudder at the stall?

Venom

[choppit]

Frankly it depends on the plane. The 38 as I know is probably the easiest plane to do it in if you have dual throttles. But also like I said there are many maneuvers that involve going into the vertical and reversing in a very short amount of time.

[Motherland]

I don't know that what you're describing is a hammerhead- it doesn't sound like it. A hammer head would require you to be in the vertical long enough to bleed down to 100-150 mph airspeed. It's not really a quick reversal, just a great way to come out of a rope.

I'll occasionally snap stall a 109K in such a way in the vertical that it will immediately position me face down at the enemy, this may be what you're describing.

[Damionte]

I've seen em doing it alot, it's kind of a hybrid hammerhead. Done not in a pure vert but in a climb. They also don't usually come fully around in a perfect nost to tail sideways move, but kind of a quick barrell roll.

The 38's do it as well but going up or down rather than left/right.

[Shane]

I've been here for awhile.  The K4 was during the BoA.  I think it was JimBean or a name similar flying it at the time.  So, how is it done?  Do you just kick in rudder at the stall?

Venom

read this.... http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,247220.msg3030799.html#msg3030799

then watch these (.ahf films) ....

http://www.speedyshare.com/248515935.html

http://www.speedyshare.com/304717729.html

http://www.speedyshare.com/242514722.html

 

[a4944]

read this.... http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,247220.msg3030799.html#msg3030799

then watch these (.ahf films) ....

http://www.speedyshare.com/248515935.html

http://www.speedyshare.com/304717729.html

http://www.speedyshare.com/242514722.html

 

Thanks Shane.  You were the 190A5 stick.  Was hoping you read these forums.  I'll review the films when I get home from work.  I'll have to experiment with the opposite control inputs for rudder and airelons.

Venom